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[nailbrain]

Range gap between DKS and other SG snipers is too big especially when DKS is TOO cheap and abundant and range trumps other stats hard.
I propose SG SNIPERS to be around 80-85 range and let performance difference be signified by perks, traits, clip size, ammo.

As of now medium-high range of 60 hexes excellent DMR weapons that are much more clearly cut to fulfill specific task: H&K G3SG1 and M21. These 2 weapons have excellent synergy in ap cost, clip size, dmg, PERKS and most importantly range (team of paired shooters will score much better results if focus fire with the 2 mentioned DMRs in tandem)

On the other hand top ranged SG snipers DKS and MSG90 are a total mess.
Range difference is stupid. Better set them at either 80 or 85
Perks on both of them are too random to imply role. DKS could be balanced around bleed and MSG90 around better  on hit, like better\longer knockdown, knockback etc.

M1C and Dragunov as in-betweeners of 60 and 80 range can be set as the standart for all around long range SG and be remade with mix of perks to make them sorta jack of all trades. (and dat M "upgrade" of Dragunov is just....... u were drunk or what???)
For best results i suggest this 2 be set at either 70 or 75 range

now for AK and M16 sniper conversion duno what to say .... they are some strange weapons that i did not find use for yet

Hunting rifle needs some love dudes it is classic weapon one of the Fallout universe symbols , bring it back to its rightful place

and ehh GAUSS RIFLE ....super knockback on thing dat shoots 2mm needles for fuck sake
only 3 perks and one of them is RELIABLE really this thing is supposed to be pipe with stack of electromagnetic coils around it powered by high energy fast discharging source eg. capacitors (definetly the epitome of sturdy construction and no potential faults)


 

[Niamak]

gauss rifle ?_? u wot m8 ?

[nailbrain]

what bout gauss rifle
i just think that weapon must have by design and look exactly the opposite traits and perks
have you played LOL my favorite example  is from this game Shen the ninja dude is.......
dmg soaking shield casting tank ....NINJA.....!!!???!!!

[mAdman]

SG snipers were a bit strange to me too, after unlocking the M1C as my first sniper and using it for ages, I thought, well the rest of the unlocked snipers are sure to just get better and better right? LoL, how wrong I was.

The M21 and the G3SG1 are the only other ones I would use really, as the damage loss is traded off nicely in the lower AP cost, but the M21 needs a burst mode too, that would make it a lot more versatile.

The SVD variants are hardly comparable to an M1C or G3SG1 in my opinion, they seem hardly worth the bother of unlocking or crafting, though I need to test more.

[MaddogCallahan]

M21 is a beautiful thing! But I also like the Dragunuv SVD for it's crazy bleed... but they dont seem to do  much in PVP always getting wasted by peeps with HGs.... sigh...

[John Porno]

youre right about the dragunovs, it's a thing that has been haunting me for ages. Like, im talking years. I'm even thinking of removing them at some point cause I don't like how they look. About dks and msg, the msg has considerably lower ap cost, allowing some setups to doubleshoot into the torso which can be an important thing in building fights.

[roripawa]

Problem I see with SG snipers is that BG snipers completely outperform them in ZC. The range gap is just too big and the x4 scope gives BG snipers the edge. Right now ZC is won and lost over who has the largest sight range and the most DSR50s.

[cirn0]

Problem I see with SG snipers is that BG snipers completely outperform them in ZC. The range gap is just too big and the x4 scope gives BG snipers the edge. Right now ZC is won and lost over who has the largest sight range and the most DSR50s.

Your meta is outdated.

[PorkchopExpress]

Not really,sure,it's not as it has been but dsrs still play big role in ZC.Definetly much greater than SG snipers.....

[paragon]

yeah, we are losing plenty of battles without countering enemy DSRs.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

and ehh GAUSS RIFLE ....super knockback on thing dat shoots 2mm needles for fuck sake
only 3 perks and one of them is RELIABLE really this thing is supposed to be pipe with stack of electromagnetic coils around it powered by high energy fast discharging source eg. capacitors (definetly the epitome of sturdy construction and no potential faults)

5 perks actually, I updated it