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[RazorRamon]

weakest weapon category atm, even below smg

[ x ] low range
[ x ] shit dps
[ x ] no cool special effects

improve that shit!

if you dont have any ideas, just draw a number from ramon suggestion box:
- Trick shooter baseline for all pistols, perk massively increases drop range of the weapon
- Unaffected by cover and deploy malus. If you manage to get close enough to someone in cover/deployed, you really deserve to hit every shot with a pistol
- Trait that gives bonus damage to pistols if target doesnt have an ally in a certain radius around him (pistols are THE dueling weapon after all)
- Decreasing firerate or AP cost with every subsequent attack on the same target

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Had you tried the 14mm with simian warfare?

I do agree some pistols should be changed since they're bad. Colt, .223 pistol, P220, etc. Just not something that will make spamming OP.

[Kurwier]

i think colt is cool and 14mm , other ones are shit for sure ... even tho i like the revovler but the aimtime killing it for crippling somehow , maybe some rework and complete cover bonus that enemy can get as iaccuracy perk on pistols ...

also plasma pistol aint bad , even tho laser one sucks hard

[mafiapl]

223 needs revamp, colt needs 8% damage buff, magneto needs critical shooty, YK needs 1 more AP drain (1x AP drain does next to nothing for ANY weapon)
Nothing else needs to be changed in pistols.

[Niamak]

Compared to other close range weapons like smg or shotgun, pistol can do unaimed single shot and aimed shot.

Singlet shots gets stronger with teamwork by making lines at a door or window. I don't think anyone is doing this anymore with so many viable splash damage weapons and smoke ingame.

Aimed shot doesn't make much sense in close range fight especially in peeking situation. I think aimed shot should be the main purpose of pistol, maybe by decreasing aimtime for aimed shot (most likely not possible).

[RazorRamon]

yeah no aimtime penalty (or less) would also make pistol viable again

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

No aim time for pistols  (I think cirn0 confirmed this on IRC)

trick shooter is gonna be real. Legendaries and weapons getting stuck in walls and unreachable areas, oh well, time to spam concussion grenades

[mafiapl]

You will kill mozambikue if you remove aim time.
That is wayyy too strong of a buff for pistols.

[Kurwier]

less aimtime wud be good

[MARXMAN]

You will kill mozambikue if you remove aim time.
That is wayyy too strong of a buff for pistols.

Mozam has already been nerfed into the ground from where it used to be

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Please revert pistols, just colt OP shit with knockouts and high bleed

[MARXMAN]

Please revert pistols, just colt OP shit with knockouts and high bleed

Only if you get caught alone. Was using it today, and it was utter shit unless I caught someone close range and unawares. I got absolutely wreckt if I got engaged past 10-15 hexes. And the knockout is nowhere near as bad as getting stun locked by 2 people 50 hexes+ away. The colt is now very powerful, but its still very situational.

Its like: Holy shit, people have decided to use weapons where they're appropriate, shame on them.

[Niamak]

I don't know how OP pistols are because literally nobody is using them.

[Kurwier]

RUHE! SILENTIUM! john porno exlusive footage form devtable while balancing ...

[BG Sexpert]

I agree. I used pistols briefly (first time since Deagle .50 was OP) and was severly disappointed.

Pistols should have very high single shot damage. It shouldn't be as much as a burst from other guns, but should be comparable.

Another recommendation is to have pistols with a weapon feat (maybe at 250) that removes the aiming timer. Turn the pistols into a short range crippler, designed for skilled gunslingers.

[MARXMAN]

So.....any plans to change pistols? Colt is good atm, but completely negated by high luck/ crit resist builders. x5 finisher only works when you can get them on the ground.

Wold be fucking great if the S&W revolver would get some love.

[Kurwier]

So.....any plans to change pistols? Colt is good atm, but completely negated by high luck/ crit resist builders. x5 finisher only works when you can get them on the ground.

Wold be fucking great if the S&W revolver would get some love.

what chu dalking abut ?

whut love ? s and w is fine with 2 better crits its one of very few wepaons which have that ... and about the colt with finnisher u probably didnt mean on ground but more like if u can use stunnades , supression and other temporary effect on enemy players while using teh colt :^)

in my opinion the pistol whihc really needs some love is the 223 one ... but john probably isnt a fan of arian robots from bladerunner ...

some tip : if u dont like the finnisher thing on colt u can use the sig sauer isntead which got almost  the same firerate but other perks

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

First courier was a mutant, then a mobster, and now a monkey banana enthusiast. What will he be next :V

Also lol at marxman, basically what courier said is my reply.