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[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Marxman it's a game composed of pixels, not army training simulator2015.

[Combatant]

If whole thing about mix mozambique perk with critical strike trait, simple check for second one will be enought. Or there is hight chance for critical in torso OR mozambique works. Why remove things, if you can just separate them from each other.

[Kurwier]

If whole thing about mix mozambique perk with critical strike trait, simple check for second one will be enought. Or there is hight chance for critical in torso OR mozambique works. Why remove things, if you can just separate them from each other.

how u wanna seperate if one thing is a wepaon trait and the other thing a playerperk ? pls explain ...

[Combatant]

I am not experienced at fonline development, so general idea about "if current weapon has *trait* = character's *perk* will not work". But now I realize that means check for current weapon on every player every time he attacks, so seems can't be done.
Generally, I am not sure about this topic, because if I understand right, weapon balancing not completed yet. If so, that means effective spam with pistols can be only one branch from whole tree, which still grows. I believe, we gotta make sure and check what devs think about topic before continue discussions around it. Is it works fine or really suppose to be less effective?

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Someone translate for Combatant please...

Niamak do your job.

Added poll to see what people want

[Niamak]

I am not experienced at fonline development, so general idea about "if current weapon has *trait* = character's *perk* will not work". But now I realize that means check for current weapon on every player every time he attacks, so seems can't be done.
Generally, I am not sure about this topic, because if I understand right, weapon balancing not completed yet. If so, that means effective spam with pistols can be only one branch from whole tree, which still grows. I believe, we gotta make sure and check what devs think about topic before continue discussions around it. Is it works fine or really suppose to be less effective?

tldr
Wait for dev to add the rest of weapons before making wild assumptions.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

That's good enough. +10 STALGHUR Points for you.

[Combatant]

tldr
Wait for dev to add the rest of weapons before making wild assumptions.

As I understand, you reply on my post without reading it, it's just hilarious itself.

[Niamak]

Reading is for nerds.

[Combatant]

Hmm Okay

[MARXMAN]

Marxman it's a game composed of pixels, not army training simulator2015.

But where do you base ideas and concepts in a game with real life equipment off of then? The game has suppression, it has bleed, it has medics, it has many functions of IRL weapons, so why isn't reality a good starting point?  I don't want this to be a milsim, but it needs to have some sort of basis in reality. If you think ARs should be the way they are for gamebalance, say so instead of just being like "lol youre too srs".

All this writing by you about semi-auto and full

This is all 100 percent grade A bullshit. Have you ever served or known someone who has or is serving in the military?  I completely agree with the thoughts on AoP ARs though.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

But where do you base ideas and concepts in a game with real life equipment off of then? The game has suppression, it has bleed, it has medics, it has many functions of IRL weapons, so why isn't reality a good starting point?  I don't want this to be a milsim, but it needs to have some sort of basis in reality. If you think ARs should be the way they are for gamebalance, say so instead of just being like "lol youre too srs".

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[MARXMAN]

But where do you base ideas and concepts in a game with real life equipment off of then? The game has suppression, it has bleed, it has medics, it has many functions of IRL weapons, so why isn't reality a good starting point?  I don't want this to be a milsim, but it needs to have some sort of basis in reality. If you think ARs should be the way they are for gamebalance, say so instead of just being like "lol youre too srs".

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Well excuse me for trying to be constructive

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

And what does this "constructive" AR talk have anything to do with the removal of Mozambique shotty?

[Kurwier]

And what does this "constructive" AR talk have anything to do with the removal of Mozambique shotty?

who says that it will ever be removed ? hahaha , better ask john if its possible to get leaderchar in sneak

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

who says that it will ever be removed ? hahaha , better ask john if its possible to get leaderchar in sneak

fuggen john, wrrst dev evea

[Count Matthew]

And what does this "constructive" AR talk have anything to do with the removal of Mozambique shotty?

who says that it will ever be removed ? hahaha , better ask john if its possible to get leaderchar in sneak

You can make a leader sneaker with 199 leadership and 200 sneak.

[Combatant]

Well now I agree. This crap already fucked my char with every shot = crit if weapon got critical strike trait. In sca mk3. 10 luck feels same as 1 luck char I used day before.

[Komrade]

Add it to AR so that they will be more useful.

As for how it is right now, I think its kinda fair for pistols to have at least that advantage to offset their short range. Although certain pistols become maybe too strong with this perk.   

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Add it to AR so that they will be more useful.

As for how it is right now, I think its kinda fair for pistols to have at least that advantage to offset their short range. Although certain pistols become maybe too strong with this perk.

Pistols are strong already due to critical strike perk.