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[Stem Sunders]

-Disabled sciencing in the core

Apart from abusing the spears on the ground to level up, why else did this happen?
Some items are good for nothing else but sciencing..

Also I don't use them so it doesn't affect me too much.
But I do find it hilarious that yesterday, someone complained about spears and today they get a nerf.

If I go and cry about miniguns can they get a nerf too? Oh wait miniguns are BG.

Just a coincidence perhaps...

[nailbrain]

someone has scienced Teks gatling or pa


oo wait yesterday tenova droped suff pistol and scienced it suff ran away past me and i droped his other wep and scienced it 
must be dat

[John Porno]

But I do find it hilarious that yesterday, someone complained about spears and today they get a nerf.

it wasnt just yesterday though, more like yesterweek

[nailbrain]

But I do find it hilarious that yesterday, someone complained about spears and today they get a nerf.

it wasnt just yesterday though, more like yesterweek

"Et tu, John ?"

[Stem Sunders]

But I do find it hilarious that yesterday, someone complained about spears and today they get a nerf.

it wasnt just yesterday though, more like yesterweek

I'm pretty sure this http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=2394.0
Was posted yesterday, so to the rest of us it looks like someone complained and you guy rushed to change it.

[John Porno]

no, we are watching you like the nsa and have seen a lot of fights over the past week. it just doesn't mean that we immediately take down the server once the first guy achieved a 3 digit crit.

[PusiteGA]

"But I do find it hilarious that yesterday, someone complained about spears and today they get a nerf"

it wasent someone it was only paragon, all other people in thet thread sead spears arent op, so its simple paragon got his ass raped by spears and  instant nerf, yesterday night we raped him again whit neddler he told he will nerf thet too

[Stem Sunders]

no, we are watching you like the nsa and have seen a lot of fights over the past week. it just doesn't mean that we immediately take down the server once the first guy achieved a 3 digit crit.

"LOOKS LIKE".

We cannot individually take into account what you guys saw over the week. And cannot know when you planned to do this.


What we do see however, is a post made yesterday by someone complaining of spears and today spears received a nerf.
As you can see in the comments of both threads I'm not the only one that thinks it looks stinky.

I personally could care less and wouldn't know what's best either way, mechanics and numbers aren't my forte.
I'm just calling what I see.

Which is yesterdays most popular thread and todays most unpopular nerf.
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As for everything else, thanks good job awesome work love the spear colors.
I still don't know why sciencing was disabled though.

Was there a reason that you could share? Just out of interest.

Because as I said some items are fit for nothing else.

[naossano]

Will we still be able to science stuff in dungeon/sewers/Upcoming leveled map ?

[Teela]

I wonder where you guys got the delusion that decision processes like these should even be remotely democratic.

I'm quite sure this has been discussed thoroughly in some murky IRC backroom. As it should.

Not that it really matters anyways since things might as well change again next week.

I think its natural that community veterans who do tons of coding have a bigger say than forum trolls. (I'm not referring to you Stem Sunders )

[PusiteGA]

I wonder where you guys got the delusion that decision processes like these should even be remotely democratic.

I'm quite sure this has been discussed thoroughly in some murky IRC backroom. As it should.

Not that it really matters anyways since things might as well change again next week.

I think its natural that community veterans who do tons of coding have a bigger say than forum trolls. (I'm not referring to you Stem Sunders )

Teela thanks for caling me troll, by the wey i did alot wiki before stalker droped me cuz bad grammar and i did some perk images
Why i think democratic cuz cirno opend 
"The Lobby
Here you can lobby for nerfs and buffs and other things that require a few minutes of tweaking."

only paragon complaint about speer OP all other people dident so whats point of the lobby

[nailbrain]

I wonder where you guys got the delusion that decision processes like these should even be remotely democratic.

I'm quite sure this has been discussed thoroughly in some murky IRC backroom. As it should.

Not that it really matters anyways since things might as well change again next week.

I think its natural that community veterans who do tons of coding have a bigger say than forum trolls. (I'm not referring to you Stem Sunders )

very very very well said Teela
wastelanders of AOP dont waste ya time you are NOT "community veterans" and dont do coding so STFU

[Stem Sunders]

I wonder where you guys got the delusion that decision processes like these should even be remotely democratic.

I'm quite sure this has been discussed thoroughly in some murky IRC backroom. As it should.

Not that it really matters anyways since things might as well change again next week.

I think its natural that community veterans who do tons of coding have a bigger say than forum trolls. (I'm not referring to you Stem Sunders )

I'm totally sure it was discussed before too, obviously.

I'm just saying that one day there is a thread, the next day a nerf.
To the ill informed that may seem dodgy.

I'm not pointing fingers and calling out names, but to others it may seem like abuse of power and influence even if that is not the case.

I'm completely sure that the devs aren't subjects to peer pressure in anyway.
But someone (A veteran/coder) complains about something that he loses battles too thinks is OP for what it is.
and then that item receives a nerf.

And just because someone codes and has played a game longer than someone else, does not necessarily mean the changes they desire are correct or good for the collective.
Just like anyone else they are subject to their own wants requirements fancies and opinions.

And while I think veterans do hold more weight in their opinions for obvious reasons.
I think its wrong to push everybody else further down the list because "You're not a veteran"
"You don't code" "You know nothing John snow"

That sorta stuff has the potential to stop someone from seeking out a contributing role in projects.
Even if that role is just playing the game and reporting a few bugs and suggestions.

No one wants to suggest something that a veteran comes along and puts down because you're a noob and simply haven't been around for as long and haven't yet contributed like they have.

I don't think anyone is trying to troll, people just want to express if they are for or against a decision/suggestion.

When one person says yes and seemingly the majority are saying no, but the answer still becomes yes.
I think thats what people were seeing here.

[Count Matthew]

"But I do find it hilarious that yesterday, someone complained about spears and today they get a nerf"

it wasent someone it was only paragon, all other people in thet thread sead spears arent op, so its simple paragon got his ass raped by spears and  instant nerf, yesterday night we raped him again whit neddler he told he will nerf thet too

That needler tactic was absolutely genius.

Even though Piggy died multiple times.

[Niamak]

Spear nerf

[Grizzly]

No!!! Not my beloved AK 

[paragon]

Can anyone show me at least which battle did I lose against spears exactly? (:

Go make some math guys, compare values and then we talk.
Instead everyone is just obsessed with someone's assumptions about my personality (:

[naossano]

I think its natural that community veterans

I think that 80% of the people still playing this server are veterans, here from the beginning of the cession, or even before.
The number of fresh blood is quite low, here, like other servers.

[nailbrain]

Can anyone show me at least which battle did I lose against spears exactly? (:

can you tell me how much time you have played actualy in real PvP with spearbuild so to post such missleading  thread
 

[PusiteGA]

math is simple i wont use speers no mor cuz it sux now and i dont mean sux it isent OP i mean it isent playable
anywye i know how ramon feels evry sneek nerf