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What is this?
« on: January 26, 2015, 12:33:02 AM »

Hey guys,

Since I defibbed the server, there have many game-play changes that have broken all semblance of previously known balance and to be honest, it is not in the production schedule to fix these balances for the current session. Although I've made changes to items, the changes were not intended to balance but rather experimentation, mostly all the development focus is on the next session. But you guys are awesome and I wouldn't want to leave the players to their own devices after screwing everything. Everyday I am surprised by the player count still.

I can't spend the time on doing it properly and many of you have a better sense of the current state of the game. I'll use this forum section for change requests. Here you can battle it out, come up with solutions and attempt to reach consensus for the game balance changes you want. It will help me help you guys out.

Mention the specific items and specific changes, the more specific the better.

Here are the list of weapons , armors and ammo data in the form of XML, you can open it up in excel or any spreadsheets.
 
http://fonline-aop.net/data/

I may not care about the current session but still care about the players, don't want to spend too much time on tweaking / don't know the current meta well enough so I'll crowd-source the current balancing!

edit: Here's a list with the pids so you can ctrlf for the weapon for those thatare not familiar with the names

Spoiler for Hiden:
22     PID_SG_14MM_PISTOL
241    PID_SG_223_PISTOL
313    PID_SG_44_MAGNUM_REVOLVER
398    PID_SG_44_MAGNUM_SPEEDLOAD
122    PID_SG_9MM_MAUSER
8      PID_SG_COLT_6520_10MM_PISTOL
10115  PID_SG_COLT_M1911
18     PID_SG_DESERT_EAGLE_44
404    PID_SG_DESERT_EAGLE_44_EXT_CAP
10010  PID_SG_DESERT_EAGLE_50
10011  PID_SG_DESERT_EAGLE_50_EXT_CAP
10120  PID_SG_GRENADE_PISTOL
10012  PID_SG_P220
394      PID_SG_PPK12_GAUSS_PISTOL
10008  PID_SG_SW_M29_REVOLVER
10009  PID_SG_SW_M29_REVOLVER_SPEEDLOAD
388    PID_SG_NEEDLER_PISTOL
300    PID_SG_ZIP_GUN

242    PID_SG_COMBAT_SHOTGUN
268    PID_SG_HK_CAWS
268    PID_SG_NEOSTEAD
354    PID_SG_PANCOR_JACKHAMMER
10119  PID_SG_REMINGTON_M870
94     PID_SG_SHOTGUN
385    PID_SG_SAWED_OFF_SHOTGUN

23     PID_SG_AK_112
405    PID_SG_AK_112_EXT_CAP
10112  PID_SG_AK_47
10111  PID_SG_AK_47_EXT_CAP
10113  PID_SG_AKS_74
10161  PID_SG_AK_74M
353    PID_SG_ENFIELD_SA80
351    PID_SG_FN_FAL
403    PID_SG_FN_FAL_LASERPOINTER
500    PID_SG_FN_LAR
391    PID_SG_HK_G11
10164  PID_SG_HK_G3A3
10168  PID_SG_M14
10116  PID_SG_M16A3
10167  PID_SG_STEYR_AUG


10162  PID_SG_AK_74M_PSO_1
143    PID_SG_DKS_501_SNIPER_RIFLE
10159  PID_SG_DRAGUNOV_SVD
10160  PID_SG_DRAGUNOV_SVD_M
10165  PID_SG_HK_G3SG1
10166  PID_SG_HK_MSG90
10     PID_SG_HUNTING_RIFLE
287    PID_SG_HUNTING_RIFLE_SCOPED
10163  PID_SG_M16A4_ACOG
10170  PID_SG_M1_GARAND
10171  PID_SG_M1C
10169  PID_SG_M21
392    PID_SG_M72_GAUSS_RIFLE
299    PID_SG_PIPE_RIFLE


9      PID_SG_10MM_SMG
296    PID_SG_FN_P90
10109  PID_SG_HK_MP5SD
283    PID_SG_M1928_THOMPSON
332    PID_SG_M3A1_GREASE_GUN
10017  PID_SG_SCORPIO
10013  PID_SG_STERLING_SMG
10014  PID_SG_STERLING_L34A1
10015  PID_SG_UZI
10016  PID_SG_UZI_SILENCED
10114  PID_SG_WALTHER_MPL

10277  PID_SG_BAR
10280  PID_SG_BREN
355    PID_SG_L86_LSW
10278  PID_SG_M249_SAW
10281  PID_SG_NEGEV_NG7
10110  PID_SG_RPK

10274  PID_BG_M240
387    PID_BG_M60
10279  PID_BG_MG42
10276  PID_BG_PKS
10275  PID_BG_UKM_2000P

10283  PID_BG_AS50
389    PID_BG_AVENGER_MINIGUN
10282  PID_BG_DSR_50
11     PID_BG_FLAMER
400    PID_BG_IMPROVED_FLAMER
10237  PID_BG_INCINERATOR
10117  PID_BG_MILKOR_MGL
10118  PID_BG_MILKOR_MGLS
12     PID_BG_MINIGUN
13     PID_BG_ROCKET_LAUNCHER
350    PID_BG_BOZAR
395    PID_BG_VINDICATOR_MINIGUN

120    PID_EW_ALIEN_BLASTER
10340  PID_EW_ELECTRO_SMG
16     PID_EW_LASER_PISTOL
402    PID_EW_MAGNETO_LASER_PISTOL
393    PID_EW_PHAZER
24     PID_EW_PLASMA_PISTOL
406    PID_EW_PLASMA_PISTOL_EXT_CAP
10339  PID_EW_RAD_SMG
390    PID_EW_SOLAR_SCORCHER
396    PID_EW_YK32_PULSE_PISTOL

10380  PID_EW_ELECTRO_RIFLE
28     PID_EW_GATLING_LASER
118    PID_EW_LASER_RIFLE
401    PID_EW_LASER_RIFLE_EXT_CAP
15     PID_EW_PLASMA_RIFLE
10379  PID_EW_RAD_RIFLE
233    PID_EW_TURBO_PLASMA_RIFLE
397    PID_EW_YK42B_PULSE_RIFLE
10381  PID_EW_PLASMA_CANNON

10483  PID_TH_POWDERBAG
10484  PID_TH_INCENDIARY_GRENADE
10494  PID_TH_CONCUSSION_GRENADE
159    PID_TH_MOLOTOV_COCKTAIL
25     PID_TH_FRAG_GRENADE
26     PID_TH_PLASMA_GRENADE
27     PID_TH_PULSE_GRENADE
19     PID_TH_ROCK
10485  PID_TH_STUN_GRENADE
10617  PID_TH_SMOKE_GRENADE
10387 PID_TH_MUSTARD_GAS_GRENADE
10388 PID_TH_EZ_NADE
10389 PID_TH_CHAFF_GRENADE
45      PID_TH_THROWING_KNIFE

21     PID_MW_BRASS_KNUCKLES
20     PID_MW_CROWBAR
4      PID_MW_KNIFE
383    PID_MW_SHIV
5      PID_MW_CLUB
386    PID_MW_LOUISVILLE_SLUGGER
7      PID_MW_SPEAR
234    PID_MW_SPIKED_KNUCKLES
320    PID_MW_SHARPENED_POLE

236    PID_MW_COMBAT_KNIFE
319    PID_MW_SWITCHBLADE
522    PID_MW_WAKIZASHI_BLADE
595    PID_MW_MACHETE
116    PID_MW_RIPPER


384    PID_MW_WRENCH
6      PID_MW_SLEDGEHAMMER
115    PID_MW_SUPER_SLEDGE
160    PID_MW_CATTLE_PROD
399    PID_MW_SUPER_CATTLE_PROD

10487  PID_MW_BARBED_SPEAR
10488  PID_MW_DYNAMITE_SPEAR
10480  PID_MW_ENERGY_SPEAR
10491  PID_MW_FESTERING_SPEAR
10489  PID_MW_PISTON_SPEAR
10479  PID_MW_PLASMA_SPEAR
10490  PID_MW_SERRATED_SPEAR
280    PID_MW_SHARPENED_SPEAR
10492  PID_MW_SNAKE_SPEAR




10493  PID_MW_IMPACT_GLOVES
407    PID_MW_MEGA_POWER_FIST
235    PID_MW_POWER_FIST
10486  PID_MW_PUNCH_GUN


29     PID_A_10MM_JHP
30     PID_A_10MM_AP
10003  PID_A_12GA_FLECHETTE
95     PID_A_12GA_SHOT
270      PID_A_12GA_SLUG
33     PID_A_14MM_AP
34     PID_A_223_REMINGTON
358    PID_A_2MM_EC
10007  PID_A_30_06_SPRINGFIELD
719    PID_A_40x46MM_HE
720    PID_A_40x46MM_SM
721    PID_A_40x46MM_INC
31     PID_A_44_JHP
111    PID_A_44_FMJ
357    PID_A_45_CAL
710    PID_A_45_ACP
359    PID_A_4_7MM_CASELESS
10002  PID_A_50_AE
10006  PID_A_50_BMG
10004  PID_A_5_3_AP
35     PID_A_5_45x39MM_FMJ
36     PID_A_5_45x39MM_7N21
10005  PID_A_5_56x45MM_NATO
10001  PID_A_5_7MM_FN
715    PID_A_7_62x39MM_SOVIET
363    PID_A_7_62x51MM_NATO
717    PID_A_7_62x54MMR
718    PID_A_7_62x54MMR_7N14
10000  PID_A_7_92_MAUSER
360    PID_A_9MM
707    PID_A_9MM_7N14
121    PID_A_9MM_BALL
706    PID_A_9MM_JHP
163    PID_A_BB
729    PID_A_ECP
728    PID_A_FISSION_BATTERY
32     PID_A_FLAMER_FUEL
382    PID_A_FLAMER_FUEL_MKII
732    PID_A_NAPALM
361    PID_A_NEEDLER
362    PID_A_NEEDLER_AP
14     PID_A_ROCKET_HE
37     PID_A_ROCKET_AP
38     PID_A_SEC
39     PID_A_MFC
590      PID_A_WEC

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Re: What is this?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2015, 06:01:32 AM »

shoud we crete new threads here or just reply,
i looby for fixing combat knife, adding my wrenchcucks, and fixing all broken speers and i want to craft thet poisen speer
i heard plasma spamers OP but duno really i only know  thet plasma or laser knockdowns me alot like evry hit almost even i have 105 agi crit resist
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2015, 08:57:32 AM »

I guess small things you can just write here like you did. For those who like to wall a lot they can open a thread as long as the same topic isnt already being discussed.

This is not about changing mechanics but mostly about finetuning numbers. And also to see how well a community balancing works out.
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2015, 09:39:52 AM »

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And also to see how well a community balancing works out.
No, it doesn't :D
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2015, 10:20:43 AM »

yeah but then it aint our fault, rite
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2015, 10:49:15 AM »

Well PKS is way too strong from what i have seen it may be from the uber ammo but i dunno , i will write later in the week some opinions , the twist thing with m42 sound interesting but there should be a look on the mgs in general fo balance it plus as long as mg42 arent available in perfect condition its pointless to change that  ...

i mean its never ending circle of balancing anyway , people will always whine and most will pick the best weapon out of a category anyway ... thats how it works in a game ...
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2015, 04:37:51 PM »

ye i heard about pks got killed 1 time when i was mele build but they were 2 so duno but from majority i heard pks rapes

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« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2015, 05:54:42 PM »

pks doesnt got great firerate so its ok i think , avenger more dealy against more people , bigger spread etc. ... i was killed and i had pks from line easy , i did some dmg but couldnt kill one ...
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Re: What is this?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2015, 11:47:27 PM »

PKS is waaaaaaay overpowered IMHO.  I can legitimately say that 8/10 of my deaths from BGers have been with one.  It does over 100 Damage to multiple targets in a burst, even with CA on.
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« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2017, 06:16:10 PM »

defib again plox
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