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Title: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:28:59 PM

it is fkn lowly to bring alts in last min of zc just to harvest few points WTF is wrong with you ?????????????

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on October 29, 2014, 02:39:59 PM

Wasn't an alt,guy played with us entire time,he's just another faction and we don't have problem with that...Lowly is taking 2 PAs and 10 more guys against 6.Lowly is having an alt in other faction to spy numbers and equipment before ZC.So just don't.....

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:43:42 PM

Lowly and cowardly tell me honestly how u get the zone in the first place ???

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:46:36 PM

 well entrenched in a room then kill some scumbag to raise points and wait ???
or just kill the scumbag in the last minute ???
this is shameful no mater how many u kill or how many armors u loot u will remain stained forever   

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on October 29, 2014, 02:47:14 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:43:42 PM

Lowly and cowardly tell me honestly how u get the zone in the first place ???

If you actually understood game,you'd know by now that zones don't matter much.Fact is,there was about 2 mins left of timer when we entered so we did more score,because we knew you'd start timer again.and about how we got zones from begining?All i'm gonna say is ,how did you get all 12 zones couple of days ago?

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:50:44 PM

so creating defensive position where we are forced to attack using scapegoats is NOT cheating and just another game mechanick or tactical move

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on October 29, 2014, 02:58:25 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:50:44 PM

so creating defensive position where we are forced to attack using scapegoats is NOT cheating and just another game mechanick or tactical move

As far as i know you had gatling+2PAs + equal numbers and you're telling me you aren't able to rush 1 small room?Call it what you want,we prolonged the fight and that was intention.Fighting without timer is even bigger waste of money and equipment.You guys using PAs and t3 weapons every battle shouldn't really be the ones calling people out....Check the mirror first....

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 03:00:32 PM

i dont fkn kill alts to flush anyone ???
so u cant rush and kill cuz of PA and gatlings and resorted to cheating rly ???
i condemn cheating
am looking at us we farmed armors and weapons gathered people went for ZC u on the other hand pissed your pants and decided to use lowly exploits , we lost some armors and guns you lost your fkn dignity

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on October 29, 2014, 03:12:15 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 03:00:32 PM

i dont fkn kill alts to flush anyone ???
so u cant rush and kill cuz of PA and gatlings and resorted to cheating rly ???
i condemn cheating
am looking at us we farmed armors and weapons gathered people went for ZC u on the other hand pissed your pants and decided to use lowly exploits , we lost some armors and guns you lost your fkn dignity

You lost your dignity long time ago.....as well as your credibility,spreading lies here on forum don't matter.And blaming counter reset for you guys losing PA and battle,makes you look funny and sad.And as far as i know, rules don't forbid playing with people from other factions...Go submit a complaint to water menagment,maybe they can help you with your problems.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: lvhoang on October 29, 2014, 04:45:42 PM

Quote from: PorkchopExpress on October 29, 2014, 03:12:15 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 03:00:32 PM

i dont fkn kill alts to flush anyone ???
so u cant rush and kill cuz of PA and gatlings and resorted to cheating rly ???
i condemn cheating
am looking at us we farmed armors and weapons gathered people went for ZC u on the other hand pissed your pants and decided to use lowly exploits , we lost some armors and guns you lost your fkn dignity

You lost your dignity long time ago.....as well as your credibility,spreading lies here on forum don't matter.And blaming counter reset for you guys losing PA and battle,makes you look funny and sad.And as far as i know, rules don't forbid playing with people from other factions...Go submit a complaint to water management,maybe they can help you with your problems.

Im guessing you are right... everyone is welcome to create other characters to have fun in any faction they want. All those people talking about spies and such .... this is all irrelevant.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Myakot on October 29, 2014, 10:25:23 PM

'you are lowly, because you came in t3 to zc and we didn't. We used an exploit to hold our zone, just because we wanted to be ones in better position and defend, even though the whole purpose of zc is for it to be otherwise.'

Yeah.. Wat?

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: FrankenStone on October 29, 2014, 11:02:29 PM

what exploit ??? u didnt see the magician Courier6  , with his magic spear , thats why we won :P don´t blame me , blame the coders ...

yeah it really doesnt matter because u had equal number of players , also T3 ... lul we hadnt , beside of 2 rocketlaunchers , but we fucked u up ... thats what we play for luls and chasing ... just dont quitrage when u loose , thats first rule for every PvP oriented player ... that happy was also dyin later in hospital in a 2 vs 2 ... with normal equippment , maybe u should give your advanced stuff to other players :/

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 01:38:50 AM

Waiting till the end of the timer and then just killing a single "friend" from another faction (who conveniently appears right at the 2 minute mark) which results in blood-less and easy win for the defending side is pretty much an exploit =/

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: mAdman on October 30, 2014, 02:15:19 AM

I'm still stumped by the part where vtech were outnumbered and outgunned.

Must have been a strange first time feeling for those vtechs to be outnumbered, can't blame them for being scared, they aren't used to it.

"Lowly is bringign 10 to fight 6"

LOL then your faction is the lowest of all by those standards, WTF, circumstances change and suddenly you are the heroes?

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Smalltime on October 30, 2014, 02:38:10 AM

Quote from: mAdman on October 30, 2014, 02:15:19 AM

I'm still stumped by the part where vtech were outnumbered and outgunned.

Hey, it's happened.
As far as using someone in another faction as a willing score dummy, I do not think it is bannable, however, it is very lame.
I'm not a huge fan of the current trend of v-tech running with a couple family guys, even if they are former v-tech.
But, the family is a neutral faction in the fight between v-tech and brahmin boys.
So, it's not really against the rules for them to do so.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: mAdman on October 30, 2014, 03:21:34 AM

I know of one guy in family that was from vtech who uses his older alts to spy and stuff, and I encountered another guy who would occasionally boost his own points with an alt, but it was never to "win" a battle I only ever saw him do it when no one was attacking (i.e. we had taken one or 2 zones already with no response).

I disagree with shooting your own alts or using opposing faction friends to boost your own score in general and think it should be punished if witnessed or "fixed" etc, but when it comes to spying on other factions, before that one guy, we didn't have spies, or even a TS channel so spies against us were one of our biggest issues, now that we have at least one, the playing field seems more even.

But if you mean vtech and family actually working together I have never seen it, though that doesn't mean it hasn't occurred. The "former" vtechs I readily accepted into the fold as did many others as we needed fighting numbers.

Aside from that i'd say 99.9% of vtechs (or any non family faction for that matter) I have shot on sight, the 0.1% was when a player from an opposing faction specifically identified themself as someone from family playing an alt, but even then i've seen them get shot just as mercilessly.

I know lawyers are supposed to be our direct enemy, but that never stopped us getting decimated in our own turf by both vtech swarms and BBoy rape squads whenever we tried to compete, so it's hard for me personally to ever consider a cross faction truce.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on October 30, 2014, 03:34:16 AM

Let's talk about more exploits:

Bboys spy is standing at the v-tech exit all the time watching exact number of people we have, time we move out and presence of PA during their ZC all the time (which results in blood-less and easy retreat if needed)
Bboys are caping several zones at once with 1 hidden character at each (which results in blood-less and easy win)

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Smalltime on October 30, 2014, 03:41:34 AM

It's not a perfect system. I'm not even sure how you would go about restricting a player to one faction, honestly.
Then again, that's not my department.
Spying using alts is pretty low. Leaving a hidden character in a zone is fairly shitty and undermines the purpose of ZC, which isn't so much to have your color on the map, as to inspire PvP.
The game in it's current state needs a lot of changes. If it didn't, the playercount wouldn't be so low.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 03:47:16 AM

Quote from: paragon on October 30, 2014, 03:34:16 AM

Let's talk about more exploits:

Bboys spy is standing at the v-tech exit all the time watching exact number of people we have, time we move out and presence of PA during their ZC all the time (which results in blood-less and easy retreat if needed)

Holy shit, call cirn0, somebody used sneaker-character for what they are supposed to do - recon. Let's fix this exploit asap.

This can be countered by simply letting your own sneak-chars to move onward before you, like a normal "squad" should do. The shit we're talking about can't be countered.

Quote

Bboys are caping several zones at once with 1 hidden character at each (which results in blood-less and easy win)

That issue exists since the first week and everybody knows about it. It's one thing to take all the zones uncontested, it's the other to farm points via alts.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Smalltime on October 30, 2014, 03:57:20 AM

Quote from: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 03:47:16 AM

Holy shit, call cirn0, somebody used sneaker-character for what they are supposed to do - recon. Let's fix this exploit asap.

I believe that he was referring to a scout that is sitting at the exit of our base, as one of our faction members, not inside of the core.
Sneaker scouts are cool.
That however, is underhanded.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on October 30, 2014, 04:17:47 AM

Quote from: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 03:47:16 AM

Holy shit, call cirn0, somebody used sneaker-character for what they are supposed to do - recon. Let's fix this exploit asap.

This can be countered by simply letting your own sneak-chars to move onward before you, like a normal "squad" should do. The shit we're talking about can't be countered.

Holy shit, your hate makes you blind (:
V-tech exit is located at the HQ, he's not a sneaker, he's fresh created character.

Quote from: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 03:47:16 AM

That issue exists since the first week and everybody knows about it. It's one thing to take all the zones uncontested, it's the other to farm points via alts.

It's not alt. He's part of our ZC group from the beginning. We did it once during the enemy was in zone without hiding, we stayed in the zone and even advanced to the enemy position after it.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on October 30, 2014, 04:29:32 AM

Quote from: Myakot on October 29, 2014, 10:25:23 PM

'you are lowly, because you came in t3 to zc and we didn't. We used an exploit to hold our zone, just because we wanted to be ones in better position and defend, even though the whole purpose of zc is for it to be otherwise.'

Yeah.. Wat?

Love how you guys twist to your benefit,your spy in Vtech courtyard even saw how many we are and our equipment and yet you use couple of PAs.We didn't enter zone until 2 min before end(because it took us that long to get 6 guys).When we couldn't locate you immediaetly we simply decided to get the points to hold the flag because you would start it again,and we simply didn't want to fight without timer(caps rewards).Also those family guys aren't alts,they're characters who're constantly played and main ones as well.Now if you think that's the reason why you lost fight ,well,no further discussion is needed.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 07:53:56 AM

@V-tec apologists
I haven't played in a long while, I can't even think of myself as a BB anymore, since everyone I played with is playing with the family now.

@paragon - it isn't even remotely hard to kill a guy in hq with a single mlk, we've done it since the server launch. Especially since you know who he is.

@porckshop
I didn't even know that you've won, congrats, although it changes nothing, since you exploited, it's on the same level with "no walls mod".

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on October 30, 2014, 09:13:33 AM

Quote from: Myakot on October 30, 2014, 07:53:56 AM

@paragon - it isn't even remotely hard to kill a guy in hq with a single mlk, we've done it since the server launch. Especially since you know who he is.

3k reputation for one kill and he's back in 1 minute. Not the best thing to do.

P.S. So it's allowed just as "no walls mod" unfortunately.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: FrankenStone on October 30, 2014, 12:48:42 PM

guys what you talking about alts ? i only have 2 charackters and both are in family , i played with paragon and co from the start , so they are my buddys ... i changed faction because of lack of small scale PvP and server population . well maybe it was a fault because i dont want to change every month my chars , thats why i stay in family now ... and btw at that fight against BB guys in PD i had no benefits no score nothing , i was only there to help my friends ... i would have earned high score , but i dont care ... all i want is fight an enemy together with friends , thats all ... no sneak capturing or whatever , i just want to fight other organised groups thats all ... if family would have such group , sure i would fight with them to capture some family zones , it would also be fun to fight against a other organised group ... but well atm server is in need of more organised groups and players ... but i will stay true to the server ...

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Teela on October 30, 2014, 03:59:52 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on October 29, 2014, 02:28:59 PM

it is fkn lowly to bring alts in last min of zc just to harvest few points WTF is wrong with you ?????????????

I was one of the people who shot the family guy. Lame: perhaps, cheating: no.

You have to understand that the only reason why we grabbed those 65 points was to force BB to retag the flag. After which we fought for the zone, and we won. And BB lost a PA.

This was by no means intended to harvest points. And you know that. All we wanted was to have a ZC. To force you to flag again. If you don't want to lose your PA don't bring it to ZC.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: gggrant on October 30, 2014, 05:10:55 PM

Each faction that does zone control, does it with in the same time frame each day they do it.
So a spy sitting on your exit grid sending a report back saying, "Yeah, they are lining up on the exit grid now. About the same time they did yesterday, and the day before, and the day before" is hardly news.

Each faction that does zone control, does it with the same crew each time they do it. So when the spy reports that 10 or 12 people are lining up, that isn't news either.

The number of power armors reported can be useful, but really how they are deployed when the zone control is actually happening is more important. This is especially true since power armor doesn't rapidly come into the game. If a faction had two power armors yesterday, they are likely to be rolling with two today. Essentially, most of the information that a spy at the exit grid can give, is already known.

For a spy to be truly effective, they have to be a part of the zone control group. A spy in your crew will do ten times the damage that one at your exit grid can do, since they will not only have a clear picture of what you are currently doing but also what you are planning. If they are part of your zone control, they can tell the other side exactly where everyone is deployed in the zone, where all the scouts are located and even give advanced notice which zone is targeted BEFORE your team gets to it.

Is a spy sitting on your exit grid cheesy? It sure is, but it isn't all that dangerous to you. A spy in your zone control party, on the other hand, will ensure you fail and fail miserably.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: lvhoang on October 31, 2014, 04:20:39 AM

This spy paranoia needs to stop. Are you guys even aware how many alts in any faction every player can have?

I wish i had more time to play so..... Just play and enjoy the game. Stop overthinking everything.

Spies, alts paranoia and such..... those are problems for people who have way too much time on their hands. Lol

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: mAdman on October 31, 2014, 12:44:41 PM

I wouldn't say they have "too much time on their hands" as that is relative, and it really doesn't take long to register a character for spying purposes etc.

I'd say it falls more under the banner of powergaming taken to extremes, and there are valid concerns raised.

What's that Kurt Cobain quote? "Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't following you."

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Smalltime on October 31, 2014, 01:10:58 PM

Quote from: mAdman on October 31, 2014, 12:44:41 PM

What's that Kurt Cobain quote? "I wonder if this thing is loaded?"

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Stem Sunders on October 31, 2014, 11:14:01 PM

By the order of the don, restore the balance.

+2 Family allied with Vtec?

+2 Family allied with Brahmin Boys.

Trying to make light of the whole situation :)

Nobody from vtec showed up (Because they didn't have Family guards *cough*Stalker*Cough* :p)

We're "OG" too so we can't be accused of switching for some kind of edge.

I made sure to get the enemy deaths on screen, to show they weren't farming us for points.

(Not saying anyone was farmed for points before)
Working together even for a brief 40 minutes was really fun.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Smalltime on October 31, 2014, 11:55:05 PM

I only watched a little bit earlier, it was a funny scenario, where the 6 guys attacked when they were outmanned 2:1
I still give them props for at least showing up
http://youtu.be/6tpTW_gm3ug

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Stem Sunders on November 01, 2014, 12:01:47 AM

Funny stuff, the music makes it.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: lvhoang on November 01, 2014, 03:23:26 AM

Lol gotta love the music xD

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on November 01, 2014, 08:40:46 AM

Quote from: Smalltime on October 31, 2014, 11:55:05 PM

I only watched a little bit earlier, it was a funny scenario, where the 6 guys attacked when they were outmanned 2:1
I still give them props for at least showing up
http://youtu.be/6tpTW_gm3ug

Thought the point of ZC was to actually fight,so why wouldn't we show up?If we get atleast 6 guys we'll always show up,ofcourse we won't continue fighting if we see it's pointless.Twice more men and x2 PAs....

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Smalltime on November 01, 2014, 09:03:55 AM

Quote from: PorkchopExpress on November 01, 2014, 08:40:46 AM

Thought the point of ZC was to actually fight,so why wouldn't we show up?If we get atleast 6 guys we'll always show up,ofcourse we won't continue fighting if we see it's pointless.Twice more men and x2 PAs....

Oh, don't take it the wrong way. I was actually rooting for you guys. If you had gotten them on the defensive, I'm sure you'd have killed at least a few of them.
But being outnumbered 2:1 and outgunned, you guys went on the offensive and went down quick. I blame lack of intel. Stealth scouts help a lot. It was brave, but tragic.

Plus, their strategy was totally lame. Leaving one guy in the zone, then hiding in the next zone with their entire force, then camping even though they knew that they had way more people.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: PorkchopExpress on November 01, 2014, 09:08:00 AM

Quote from: Smalltime on November 01, 2014, 09:03:55 AM

Quote from: PorkchopExpress on November 01, 2014, 08:40:46 AM

Thought the point of ZC was to actually fight,so why wouldn't we show up?If we get atleast 6 guys we'll always show up,ofcourse we won't continue fighting if we see it's pointless.Twice more men and x2 PAs....

Oh, don't take it the wrong way. I was actually rooting for you guys. If you had gotten them on the defensive, I'm sure you'd have killed at least a few of them.
But being outnumbered 2:1 and outgunned, you guys went on the offensive and went down quick. I blame lack of intel. Stealth scouts help a lot. It was brave, but tragic.

Plus, their strategy was totally lame. Leaving one guy in the zone, then hiding in the next zone with their entire force, then camping even though they knew that they had way more people.

Well,that's what we figured out too,they had intel on us whole time,a bit hard to fight without sneaker's intel but  low population is the one to blame i guess :S

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on November 01, 2014, 09:16:31 AM

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Plus, their strategy was totally lame. Leaving one guy in the zone, then hiding in the next zone with their entire force, then camping even though they knew that they had way more people.

Lowly cheating from B BOYS and F FAMILY

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Stem Sunders on November 01, 2014, 10:52:57 AM

Quote from: paragon on November 01, 2014, 09:16:31 AM

Quote

Plus, their strategy was totally lame. Leaving one guy in the zone, then hiding in the next zone with their entire force, then camping even though they knew that they had way more people.

Lowly cheating from B BOYS and F FAMILY

I'm convinced you're a troll, or just blind.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on November 01, 2014, 11:00:13 AM

Exactly my opinion about most of the messages in this thread.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Stem Sunders on November 01, 2014, 11:03:59 AM

Shooting someone (A friend) from another faction to gather points for zc no matter how few, is low thats for sure.

And trying to justify it by saying "We wanted to force a recap" is equally low.


Probably not against the rules though.

Komrade and I went with BBs yesterday to try level the playing field if it was the same set up.
was really fun.

P.s no points were harvested from us, only law :)

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 11:23:08 AM

to be purely honest i over reacted and shot one of you when we were entering the zone u just poped red infront of me .....

it was single shot from me nobody was killed yet it gained some points not dat it matters much in the end score

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Stem Sunders on November 01, 2014, 11:27:13 AM

Quote from: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 11:23:08 AM

to be purely honest i over reacted and shot one of you when we were entering the zone u just poped red infront of me .....

it was single shot from me nobody was killed yet it gained some points not dat it matters much in the end score

Who? :D me? I wasn't shot, everyone was very nice.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 11:34:41 AM

so it was the other dude Komrade
i shot him because he poperd infront of me around the corner
didnt kill him just shot once

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Teela on November 01, 2014, 11:38:37 AM

Quote from: Stem Sunders on November 01, 2014, 11:03:59 AM

Shooting someone (A friend) from another faction to gather points for zc no matter how few, is low thats for sure.

And trying to justify it by saying "It was an accident" is equally low.

All right lets stop this thread already lol.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Stem Sunders on November 01, 2014, 11:42:12 AM

Quote from: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 11:34:41 AM

so it was the other dude Komrade
i shot him because he poperd infront of me around the corner
didnt kill him just shot once

Awh :( I thought we made it through without any accidents.

Lets just see where everything goes.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 12:01:04 PM

am asking this thread to be removed it deals no good to the forum
TY and have nice day

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Komrade on November 01, 2014, 02:08:44 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 12:01:04 PM

am asking this thread to be removed it deals no good to the forum
TY and have nice day

Why ? What the vtecs did was despicable and without honor but it's part of the games (broken)politics.   

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Teela on November 01, 2014, 02:27:02 PM

Heh indeed its broken. But fortunately this imperfection in the ZC system hasn't been abused too much (yet), at least not in my presence.

A fix could be only allowing score from factions that have a score already. But that's probably a lot of work for our already overworked devs. And I don't see any real problem.

I think I speak for all of V-tec when I say that 'abusing' the score system isn't something we plan on doing a lot. This was a special occasion. So no need to fix anything in this regard. It will not be abused on any large and serious scale.

At the end of the day we all want to go ZC and fight and die (or live).

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 02:29:34 PM

Because the thread was about a certain event and have not seen it happen since but thread stays and leaves impresion that scapegoating is regular VTecks practice
and turned into spy/exploit flame war and this was not my intention
plus i heard the opinion of v tecks involved in all this and they sanction all their actions
so no more to talk about

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on November 01, 2014, 02:34:31 PM

Quote from: Teela on November 01, 2014, 02:27:02 PM

A fix could be only allowing score from factions that have a score already.

It's one line of the code and actually I like the idea for preventing bringing alts and shoot them during ZC. But probably not important for current 20 active players.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Teela on November 01, 2014, 02:47:38 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on November 01, 2014, 02:29:34 PM

Because the thread was about a certain event and have not seen it happen since but thread stays and leaves impresion that scapegoating is regular VTecks practice
and turned into spy/exploit flame war and this was not my intention
plus i heard the opinion of v tecks involved in all this and they sanction all their actions
so no more to talk about

Heh, perhaps you should have phrased the topic title a bit different :)

But no need to delete it. Bit of flaming here and there has never hurt forum activity; 3 pages of posts in 1 day.

Time for a group hug. Paragon has a point. We got more important stuff to tend to :)

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on November 01, 2014, 02:52:02 PM

Don't delete the forum PvP! this a first for AoP :D

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Captain Chilly on November 01, 2014, 04:26:13 PM

bringing high end gear to ZC isn't lowly
it's called "i played this game for a long time and got good gear so now i'm gonna be helpful to my faction"

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: gggrant on November 01, 2014, 06:20:59 PM

Quote from: Captain Chilly on November 01, 2014, 04:26:13 PM

bringing high end gear to ZC isn't lowly
it's called "i played this game for a long time and got good gear so now i'm gonna be helpful to my faction"

That is cheating you know. Everybody knows the rule that says the only armor allowed in ZC is Sand Robes and the only weapons allowed are Knives (NOT Combat Knives), Pipe Rifles and Zip Guns.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: Teela on November 01, 2014, 10:11:04 PM

Quote from: gggrant on November 01, 2014, 06:20:59 PM

Quote from: Captain Chilly on November 01, 2014, 04:26:13 PM

bringing high end gear to ZC isn't lowly
it's called "i played this game for a long time and got good gear so now i'm gonna be helpful to my faction"

That is cheating you know. Everybody knows the rule that says the only armor allowed in ZC is Sand Robes and the only weapons allowed are Knives (NOT Combat Knives), Pipe Rifles and Zip Guns.

Nah c'mon guys. Indeed Vtec had a bit of a low morale last week when BB started capturing zones with PAs and we got whacked in every battle.

But hey. We didn't give up. We figured that with a couple of rad rifles and a couple of rocket launchers we could beat the Power Armors. And we did.

So last night BB took Polymer Lab and Vtec didn't have 6 people. I went with Count Matthew to fight none the less. And yes Matthew had his Support MKII on and yes I was wearing my faction armor. We went to battle anyways.

I didn't lose my gear this time but in Vtec the rule is that when you lose your shit in ZC your faction friends will step in and give you new stuff to fight with. Once this friggin server comes back online I'm going to equip my best armor and weapons and I will go forth into battle once more.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: lvhoang on November 09, 2014, 07:41:58 AM

I think the attention is starting to shift away from ZC.

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on November 14, 2014, 05:31:02 PM

Who is Lowly cheating V TECS now, babes?

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: nailbrain on November 14, 2014, 07:52:26 PM

again you dont play stupid i know what you did in te last battle
i realy realy wanted badly to troll you but my teammates pointed wisely you vteks are scumbags by nature but all this shit will be fixed and the new model of mobile ZC will bomb your camping cheating asses back to the elementary school

Title: Re: Lowly cheating from V TECS
Post by: paragon on November 14, 2014, 10:56:08 PM

Quote from: nailbrain on November 14, 2014, 07:52:26 PM

again you dont play stupid i know what you did in te last battle

Tell us all. We should know. Also, please, don't make unsubstantiated statements, please.

Quote from: nailbrain on November 14, 2014, 07:52:26 PM

i realy realy wanted badly to troll you but my teammates pointed wisely you vteks are scumbags by nature but all this shit will be fixed and the new model of mobile ZC will bomb your camping cheating asses back to the elementary school

Well, well, so first you insult me, then you state that I'm cheating.
Anything to prove your words? Or like always?