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[paragon]

I think it was lvhoang. He prepared soil for it for a long

While naossano is playing Fonline AoP of some naive parallel world, in my world having someone in mumble/ZC group being a spy or at least somebody with a hidden personality always were an issue. Some of v-tec team switchers tried to openly for a leaders use it against lawyers as well, but were said to stop. Still it doesn't take much to infiltrate and share insider info with your team without them knowing how do you know it.

Devs can't provide you team by giving you ability to join a faction, the history knows many examples to prove that's nothing close to real. And your complains about spies is just another example.

I'm not expecting you to realise it though (: There's no reason to try to argument with me about it as well. Although, if you actually have some facts to discuss, sure, go on. But make it different from just your opinion.

Spy warfare is a common feature yet.

I have an idea from this at least. The char with higher reputation attacking the the char with lower reputation shouldn't lose reputation. With all hard work made y Cirn to make rep valid solid value, it should work fine.

[Count Matthew]

I am suffering from burn out at the moment and I don't have the motivation to really try. Maybe in a few weeks I will come back and try to sort a core team out. At least the majority of us are using team speak.

Yeah "Monster" is my V tech character and is used to determine if I am wasting my time trying to start ZC. If there are no enemies, then there is no point.

[lvhoang]

Paragon, you re trying to stab random people in the dark. Anyway, keep it up with the paranoia. You should probably remember what side I play on (Read the posts). No point arguing. But good to see you still remember your first love.

PS: reminds me of your earlier posts when you said Laws crashed the forum when they were about to lose... lol

[Caboose]

I am suffering from burn out at the moment and I don't have the motivation to really try. Maybe in a few weeks I will come back and try to sort a core team out. At least the majority of us are using team speak.

Yeah "Monster" is my V tech character and is used to determine if I am wasting my time trying to start ZC. If there are no enemies, then there is no point.

Have a break for a week or so, does you alot of good. Let the Lawyers work it our for themselves for a bit.

I agree with Paragon, spy warfare has it's place, but it's upto each team to police it etc. If I discover you, be prepared to be TK'd and shunned from squad.

[FrankenStone]

blyad

[naossano]

Tell me name of the spy and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

I don't know who is using this account. Only seen the name of that law character. But thanks for your proposal.

About the ones spying the vtec, i can't tell. I almost never used my vtec char (they were never lacking members) outside scavenging/levelling/visiting the base, and never asked squad membership there. So i can't check who spied you or if you were actually spied. So i'll take your word on that. I hope this has stopped and won't happen again in the cession. We don't need spying. We want good pvp, not a quick 5 seconds win and i am sure most old lawyers don't endorse it either, except for the example mentioned by piggy.

As for the faction switching, i am not sure either if it would be easier or harder in the future to use the same character in multiple faction (i hope it would be easier), but it will always be possible to create multiple characters in multiple factions, if you got tired of previous faction, if you aren't enough or way too many, so the game would be playable for everyone. Regardless if you like it, or not, it promotes a different team philosophy than other servers, with their closed faction and all those poisonous isolationist behaviors they create (i spent years on one of those servers and i am glad i am not seeing some of those behaviors again. Some guys litterally hate it others for 5 or 6 years now). It is great to have those differents philosophy in different servers, as not everyone like to play with/agains't the same people forever. There are servers that allow isolationism, and other, more opens. Pick your choice according to your preference, but don't try to force isolationism on the only server that is open for switch and exchanges.

PS: I wish you a good resting Piggy. I dunno if i'll stop playing, but i would probably be out too, except when poked for PVP. Tired of waiting for action or trying to gather for action, or only having action way too late on the night, when it is almost bedtime.

[FrankenStone]

rest in pepperoni

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Meanwhile suff is spying on us with his GM alt

[RazorRamon]

i use johns gm alt to spawn me wakizashis and sneakboys in events

[Niamak]

One of suff's nickname on IRC is paragoid which is short for paranoia. (illuminati confirmed)

Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

[Caboose]

One of suff's nickname on IRC is paragoid which is short for paranoia. (illuminati confirmed)

Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

Yes I do.

[FrankenStone]

the only honorable player is courier

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

the only honorable player is courier

You want honor? Commit Sepukko

[naossano]

Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

You are contradicting yourself a bit. A serious hardcore player look for challenge, not cheap tricks that will rob him for that challenge or any fight, or the committement of his opponements. Beside that, Piggy said himself that he wasn't spying but checking activity.

PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...

[Niamak]

Sometimes, im not using the right words. I meant "casual" as for playing for fun and "serious" as for playing seriously to achieve victory by all means.

Not the "casual" vs "hardcore perma death roguelike no levelup no armor no bonfire challenge" debate.

[paragon]

Was clear to you what you've meant there.
It's probably more perception/attitude stereotype issue than wording.

[Caboose]

Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

You are contradicting yourself a bit. A serious hardcore player look for challenge, not cheap tricks that will rob him for that challenge or any fight, or the committement of his opponements. Beside that, Piggy said himself that he wasn't spying but checking activity.

PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...

Since when was checking activity not spying?? Call a fucking spade a fucking spade.

[Count Matthew]

From my perspective... Checking activity is a time saving exercise ( you only get one life ).... Spying would entail checking numbers and relaying weapons etc. As we are on a low population server, checking to see if anyone is available to contest is sometimes needed.

[FrankenStone]

PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...

god dont has a voice too

[paragon]

Checking activity is checking numbers at least. Gimme another algorithm if you know any.