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Title: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 09, 2015, 02:17:09 AM
I'm kind of curious who will stay in Lawyers for next session.

Me and courier already agreed to stay in Lawyers, and wondering who else wants to stay and play with the same people. 
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 09, 2015, 03:57:36 AM
I am a platoon guy, so i will probably follow my platoon with one of my characters. (dunno which faction)
I will probably make another char in a second faction after a while to get some perspective and get a bit more balance.
But who the second char will belong will mostly depend on the numbers. I won't join the swarming faction, no matter if their HQ looks cool. Another factor would be the RP of the players. It has been a while since i saw the last RP player...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 09, 2015, 04:30:18 AM
Roleplaying in AoP  ??? Uhm....I guess.

And who's in your platoon? I'm assuming Tenova, Matthew and 2 others.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 09, 2015, 05:38:06 AM
Currently it is just Clochard/Ravach, but we were around 15 in the early days of the cession. We were one of the three lawyers major platoons at the beginning. Most of them left or became casual, but most will likely return on the early days of next cession. (some of them ONLY play Fonline the first month of a new cession, then quit as soon as they have everything)

About RP, it means a lot for me. The best times i had in Fonline 2238 were when we had some heavy RP projects. We all already play in a fictionnal world. If everyone play like they actually believe in this world, if they embody their characters, and act/react/behave/talk according to these belief, the immersion becomes ten times better. Every action, every fight, every encounter, has a meaning, instead of being a mechanical process. Also, it literrally kill boredom...

About Roleplaying in AOP, i think it has much much more potential in AOP than in other servers, considering we are all sharing the same big map. But IMO, it need some more push to make players want to stay much more in the city and much less idling in the HQ hoping for a timer. One good thing would be to make sure every map of the city have some unique stuff that everyone would want to grab. Let's say hospital is the only place you could acquire super-stimpacks. A faction/platoon decide to focus on this map, defend it at all cost, and grap all the super-stimpack. If you want some, you would have to mount a big assault or be more diplomat and start to trade with them. It can lead to a bigger variety on player interaction in that area, instead of having it empty except for ZC time... It would work as long as there is more than one player dedicated to such tasks.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 09, 2015, 06:45:28 AM
rp
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 09, 2015, 10:17:22 AM
Roleplaying in AoP  ??? Uhm....I guess.

And who's in your platoon? I'm assuming Tenova, Matthew and 2 others.

My platoon is me, Thomas, VaultBoy, Tenova and Ninjew, plus a person who is originally family but has joined lawyers (won't name unless told I can do). Most of us are moving to the Chruch next season.

Hellmoi will stay in whichever base is the best organised.

Nao, I've been playing with you and Clochard for almost 8 months, would be a shame if we split.

Stalker and Courer, you are welcome to come to, but if you wanna stay with Lawyers, that is your choice. Still been great playing with you guys :)
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 09, 2015, 10:27:01 AM
I was friendly with most people, including you, even before we played together so i will probably keep being friendly with everyone except for ZC, known trolls or RP reasons.
And i will probably have more than one char so don't worry.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: MARXMAN on July 09, 2015, 01:51:57 PM
I'm probably going to follow Matthew and Company over to the Church. Playing with them has been the best part of my pvp AoP experience.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: RazorRamon on July 09, 2015, 03:45:41 PM
Great nobody wants to join the other new faction yet.
Im gonna be alone in hounds or syndicate (whichever gets released first)
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 09, 2015, 06:54:18 PM
Hmm...I see then.

well, good luck to you guys :V

Great nobody wants to join the other new faction yet.
Im gonna be alone in hounds or syndicate (whichever gets released first)
I'm pretty sure everyone is gonna join the 2 new factions. They're gonna come back and see them added and be like "OMG THIS IS NEW, I GOTTA JOIN"

cum wit mee 4 making the A-Team :P
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 09, 2015, 08:17:49 PM
Join NO or KOTW - otherwise get ready to lose your faction.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 09, 2015, 10:21:00 PM
Join NO or KOTW - otherwise get ready to lose your faction.
I already play with some new order guys in reloaded. I'm also pretty sure paragon the bitch will try telling everyone I'm the enemy or not take me. + I wouldn't want to play with a guy that takes jokes too seriously (or adds people to their ignore list ::))

Only reason why I would play with KoTW will probably be cause of simman.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 10, 2015, 03:50:33 AM
Join NO or KOTW - otherwise get ready to lose your faction.

There will be 6 factions, I think two fonline relics won't make much of a difference.:3
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Anza on July 10, 2015, 04:16:45 AM
I'd rather stay Lawyers and I expected other old TTTLA to stay Lawyers too. Nao let your main in Lawyers this is OUR home !!!
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 10, 2015, 04:24:28 AM


There will be 6 factions, I think two fonline relics won't make much of a difference.:3

Why leave lawyers and join church pls explain.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 10, 2015, 04:30:43 AM


There will be 6 factions, I think two fonline relics won't make much of a difference.:3

Why leave lawyers and join church pls explain.

I like the lore (from what I've heard) and the RP element is quite interesting. Superficial things like CA robes sounds fun!! I will have an alt in lawyers, definitely.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 10, 2015, 04:52:04 AM
Yeah, I'll probably have an alt in Churches Chicken too :D but majority of my AoP time will be on my main lawyer. But if wipe happens September, goodbye AoP cause of fallout 4  :-\ (Ya ya its released november but I'll be in college by then)


(http://www.emporis.com/images/show/759330-Large.jpg)

I'd rather stay Lawyers and I expected other old TTTLA to stay Lawyers too. Nao let your main in Lawyers this is OUR home !!!
Yay. I'm gonna try getting BSG and everyone I know to get into Lawyers. If not, then I'll say piss off to them and GL :D
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 10, 2015, 05:34:25 AM
I'd rather stay Lawyers and I expected other old TTTLA to stay Lawyers too. Nao let your main in Lawyers this is OUR home !!!

We are some democracy whores, so we will probably vote for where our main platoon will be.
Still, as said before, it doesn't prevent having other chars in other factions. Most sane players are pretty open-minded about that...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 10, 2015, 05:36:03 AM
I'd rather stay Lawyers and I expected other old TTTLA to stay Lawyers too. Nao let your main in Lawyers this is OUR home !!!

Anza :(
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Anza on July 10, 2015, 06:30:43 AM
Matthew I'll burst you with some stimpacks of love  ;D
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 10, 2015, 10:59:17 AM
Join NO or KOTW - otherwise get ready to lose your faction.
I already play with some new order guys in reloaded. I'm also pretty sure paragon the bitch will try telling everyone I'm the enemy or not take me. + I wouldn't want to play with a guy that takes jokes too seriously (or adds people to their ignore list ::))

Only reason why I would play with KoTW will probably be cause of simman.

since when is paragon kotw or new order member ? did i missed something ? :D , dont worry about some midnightrider plus kotw , well i like them they good for looting stuff in first place i guess ...

i will stick to the faction where most of the players at im friendly with , i dont wanna see franz otto or blindman bill around me ^^
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: mafiapl on July 10, 2015, 01:01:24 PM
My priority to pick faction in new season is as follows:
1. Most easy base, so far the best base lawyers got. Everything is close and you need 3 clicks to go to world map from inside platoon base.
2. Where Paragon and Matthew/Thomas will be.
3. If certain people from MRMC return that's where i will be.
4. Not where Courier, Windrunner, GBK, Caboose and Courier is.

I will probably join multiple factions later when server population will get lower. I never liked being in multiple factions, but i hated no action even more.
Yours Hellmai.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: cirn0 on July 10, 2015, 04:31:50 PM
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll all get to play with each other sooner or later eventually when one faction "liberates" another faction.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: ProfessorYanick on July 10, 2015, 05:06:03 PM
I hope that there will be no possibility to "ghost liberate" factions while it's players are offline...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: cirn0 on July 10, 2015, 06:16:48 PM
Not everyone can be online at any given time, but we'll schedule liberation activities at the most popular time slots.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 10, 2015, 06:42:19 PM
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll all get to play with each other sooner or later eventually when one faction "liberates" another faction.
That's kind of lame, obviously the faction with the most players will win...

(swarm bullshit)

Unless it were somewhat equal numbers  :-\
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: John Porno on July 10, 2015, 06:54:14 PM
Next season will be most free and democratic season ever
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 10, 2015, 07:38:17 PM
Don't worry, I'm sure you'll all get to play with each other sooner or later eventually when one faction "liberates" another faction.
That's kind of lame, obviously the faction with the most players will win...

(swarm bullshit)

Unless it were somewhat equal numbers  :-\

Not always. It's gonna be exciting.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 11, 2015, 01:31:05 AM
My priority to pick faction in new season is as follows:
1. Most easy base, so far the best base lawyers got. Everything is close and you need 3 clicks to go to world map from inside platoon base.
2. Where Paragon and Matthew/Thomas will be.
3. If certain people from MRMC return that's where i will be.
4. Not where Courier, Windrunner, GBK, Caboose and Courier is.

I will probably join multiple factions later when server population will get lower. I never liked being in multiple factions, but i hated no action even more.
Yours Hellmai.
Please don't play in whatever faction I end up in.

Last thing I want is a gay faction switcher that switches whenever it's convenient for them...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 11, 2015, 05:38:56 AM
You play in a faction full of switchers, both of us included.

Hellmai >
You should lead your own faction then.
Courrier/Komrade, Caboose/Suff, Windrunner/GBK were on the three different main sides for most of the cession.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 11, 2015, 06:07:23 AM
You play in a faction full of switchers, both of us included.

Hellmai >
You should lead your own faction then.
Courrier/Komrade, Caboose/Suff, Windrunner/GBK were on the three different main sides for most of the cession.
Uhm....what?
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 11, 2015, 08:55:40 AM
What about what ?
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: MARXMAN on July 12, 2015, 12:38:37 PM
My priority to pick faction in new season is as follows:
1. Most easy base, so far the best base lawyers got. Everything is close and you need 3 clicks to go to world map from inside platoon base.
2. Where Paragon and Matthew/Thomas will be.
3. If certain people from MRMC return that's where i will be.
4. Not where Courier, Windrunner, GBK, Caboose and Courier is.

I will probably join multiple factions later when server population will get lower. I never liked being in multiple factions, but i hated no action even more.
Yours Hellmai.
Please don't play in whatever faction I end up in.

Last thing I want is a gay faction switcher that switches whenever it's convenient for them...


Get your head out of your own ass STALKER.  You've switched around every faction for fun.  Also, using "gay" in the sense to mean something stupid is childish and crude.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 12, 2015, 01:15:22 PM
Get your head out of your own ass STALKER.  You've switched around every faction for fun.  Also, using "gay" in the sense to mean something stupid is childish and crude.
Hey, get your shit straight before making false accusations. I did not switch for "fun" I had my reasons to switch factions. I'll make them small for you
 
Family to BB - Amoy Dukes moved so I moved with them, language barriers, no other gang, just randoms
BB to V-Tec - Amboy Dukes moved again, I followed. Language barriers with majority of BB
Vtec to family - Got sick of swarming factions, amboy dukes quit AoP, switched with courier.
Family to lawyers - worst decision ever. Russians were like bots, Komrade just sucked, language barriers, none bothered to join TS, only some English speakers. Switched with courier and grizzly where I am now.

GAYmoi however has alts for each faction and switches to whatever faction he pleases. No family on? He'll just switch to his V-Tec alt. He fights lawyers for a while and then family gets on so he switches to family. Family loses battles,rage quit, and what do you know, logs on his lawyer at. And I'm just like, dude, WTF, we just fought each other and now you wanna play with us?.I don't know why some lawyers sick his dick so much but I really hate that. Same with Komrade, cawk, obelix.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: mafiapl on July 12, 2015, 03:10:51 PM
I was in Lawyers in the very beginning.
Then didnt play for around 2 months.
Then Paragon told me to go to Vtec, i didnt like that base but i moved. Then i played for quite a long time in Vtec, was learning to play.
Then server population got very low. Vtecs were swarming all enemies, no enemies for me to fight against.
Made new character in family (and i was still quite weak player then). From time to time i played as both family and Vtec, some (Brahmin Boys) didnt like it and they started to shot at me (Brahmin Boys) so... i defended (as Family). Then Komrade and Courier got angry i am killing their "allies" and i was given  a choice - play family or vtec not two at same time, so i picked 3rd option, i joined back to Lawyers who at that time didnt have almost any player, then i kept playing solo for around month (i am pretty sure most of you remember my solo toilet controls, thats when i gained more gameplay skills), then slowly some lawyers started to join with me (and thats when i started to gain experience in team fights by being constantly swarmed by Family/BB alliance). Then Alex led us and i helped him form the pact with Vtecs, the "If you see both Family and BB's, we can join hands against them if both Lawyer and Vtec side agree". Then there was server big rollback. After that i kept playing with Lawyers only. At some point i stopped playing at all and had 2 weeks break. Then i returned to Vtec and started to play with them and at same time with Lawyers. After around 2 months Windrunner came back to Lawyers and i was kicked from his main squad which he and GBK made because Alex left the game, then i played much much more as Vtec. After 2 weeks i returned briefly to Lawyers and found out that there are 2 squads, the other consisted of people who were kicked by GBK. I joined that squad (it was Matthew and Thomas squad). Then Windrunner and GBK left again because they had no people in squad. Then i played in Lawyers again (since they had very low numbers... again) and after 1 month GBK and Windrunner returned and played with us from time to time. More less at same time courier joined the squad. There were a lot of time when only GBK, Windrunner, Courier were online so then i swiched to Vtecs and then Caboose started to shot at me out of blue. I didnt play in Vtec for quite some time after that. So i decided to go back to family (at the beginning i used my brother's character "Tsunami" since i had to level up new char) since Courier was no longer there. Then we played and played. Around 2 weeks later some friends from Vtec asked me to play with them, i told them i would be shot by Caboose so there is no point. They told me to make new character and so i did make new char "Speedy", that was the must funny time i ever had in AoP. 1 month later i had to leave to Germany so i left all my equipment with Paragon as he was the only person online at that time whom could be trusted with that, well i kind of screwed it up because i realized that i should leave the equipment for others to use, 1 day before my departure. 3 months later i returned to my country and there was a wipe in AoP and i joined the Vtecs. Since i made new char Hellmai and had plenty of experience, i killed lots of new players and gained a lot of equipment at start of session. But still Caboose kept shooting at me adding more equipment to my pile of loot. So i decided to make new char and and played with him, being muted on mumble all the time and he never expected it. That was also very fun time. In the end server population got lower, so i joined Family (because Matthew and Thomas also joined their brother Caboose and me in Vtec, there was almost no one left in Lawyers whom i knew, and i made it like "I returned after i quit the game because Vtecs kept teamkilling me", that was also fun time playing hidden in Vtec and Family and pissing Caboose off. Then Cirn0 quit and not many were left to maintain the server, so it slowly fell apart.

So that's pretty much what happened. More or less...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 12, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
You should use some paragraphs to separate your text.

You also don't need to justify yourself in switching factions. The only thing that sucks is using that to cheat agains't one team (spying for instance). But switching itself is part of the game.

PS: Alex was mostly a technical leader for leadership buff. Before you, then Wind Runner, came to lead, there was no formal leader of operation, just experienced players that gave advices to noobs and everyone voiced his own ideas or just played. Also, there was no wipe since september 2014...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Komrade on July 12, 2015, 03:35:25 PM
Nice wall of text Hellmoi  :)

Stalker keep running away , faster and faster.
Add a double voodoo for stalker please so he can run away even faster.
All in all I would prefer to have bots with me than cowards so yeah stay as far away as you can and run as fast as you can.   
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 12, 2015, 07:19:38 PM
I was in Lawyers in the very beginning.
Then didnt play for around 2 months.
Then Paragon told me to go to Vtec, i didnt like that base but i moved. Then i played for quite a long time in Vtec, was learning to play.
Then server population got very low. Vtecs were swarming all enemies, no enemies for me to fight against.
Made new character in family (and i was still quite weak player then). From time to time i played as both family and Vtec, some (Brahmin Boys) didnt like it and they started to shot at me (Brahmin Boys) so... i defended (as Family). Then Komrade and Courier got angry i am killing their "allies" and i was given  a choice - play family or vtec not two at same time, so i picked 3rd option, i joined back to Lawyers who at that time didnt have almost any player, then i kept playing solo for around month (i am pretty sure most of you remember my solo toilet controls, thats when i gained more gameplay skills), then slowly some lawyers started to join with me (and thats when i started to gain experience in team fights by being constantly swarmed by Family/BB alliance). Then Alex led us and i helped him form the pact with Vtecs, the "If you see both Family and BB's, we can join hands against them if both Lawyer and Vtec side agree". Then there was server big rollback. After that i kept playing with Lawyers only. At some point i stopped playing at all and had 2 weeks break. Then i returned to Vtec and started to play with them and at same time with Lawyers. After around 2 months Windrunner came back to Lawyers and i was kicked from his main squad which he and GBK made because Alex left the game, then i played much much more as Vtec. After 2 weeks i returned briefly to Lawyers and found out that there are 2 squads, the other consisted of people who were kicked by GBK. I joined that squad (it was Matthew and Thomas squad). Then Windrunner and GBK left again because they had no people in squad. Then i played in Lawyers again (since they had very low numbers... again) and after 1 month GBK and Windrunner returned and played with us from time to time. More less at same time courier joined the squad. There were a lot of time when only GBK, Windrunner, Courier were online so then i swiched to Vtecs and then Caboose started to shot at me out of blue. I didnt play in Vtec for quite some time after that. So i decided to go back to family (at the beginning i used my brother's character "Tsunami" since i had to level up new char) since Courier was no longer there. Then we played and played. Around 2 weeks later some friends from Vtec asked me to play with them, i told them i would be shot by Caboose so there is no point. They told me to make new character and so i did make new char "Speedy", that was the must funny time i ever had in AoP. 1 month later i had to leave to Germany so i left all my equipment with Paragon as he was the only person online at that time whom could be trusted with that, well i kind of screwed it up because i realized that i should leave the equipment for others to use, 1 day before my departure. 3 months later i returned to my country and there was a wipe in AoP and i joined the Vtecs. Since i made new char Hellmai and had plenty of experience, i killed lots of new players and gained a lot of equipment at start of session. But still Caboose kept shooting at me adding more equipment to my pile of loot. So i decided to make new char and and played with him, being muted on mumble all the time and he never expected it. That was also very fun time. In the end server population got lower, so i joined Family (because Matthew and Thomas also joined their brother Caboose and me in Vtec, there was almost no one left in Lawyers whom i knew, and i made it like "I returned after i quit the game because Vtecs kept teamkilling me", that was also fun time playing hidden in Vtec and Family and pissing Caboose off. Then Cirn0 quit and not many were left to maintain the server, so it slowly fell apart.

So that's pretty much what happened. More or less...

this text is confusing and trying to explain switching is funny , im just wondering who gave u work in germany lol ... im not sure if u can follow basic workflows ... cirn0 quit ? after wipe ? u never played even more than one day for any faction so its topkek better fap
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 12, 2015, 07:36:16 PM
Get your head out of your own ass STALKER.  You've switched around every faction for fun.  Also, using "gay" in the sense to mean something stupid is childish and crude.
Hey, get your shit straight before making false accusations. I did not switch for "fun" I had my reasons to switch factions. I'll make them small for you
 
Family to BB - Amoy Dukes moved so I moved with them, language barriers, no other gang, just randoms
BB to V-Tec - Amboy Dukes moved again, I followed. Language barriers with majority of BB
Vtec to family - Got sick of swarming factions, amboy dukes quit AoP, switched with courier.
Family to lawyers - worst decision ever. Russians were like bots, Komrade just sucked, language barriers, none bothered to join TS, only some English speakers. Switched with courier and grizzly where I am now.

GAYmoi however has alts for each faction and switches to whatever faction he pleases. No family on? He'll just switch to his V-Tec alt. He fights lawyers for a while and then family gets on so he switches to family. Family loses battles,rage quit, and what do you know, logs on his lawyer at. And I'm just like, dude, WTF, we just fought each other and now you wanna play with us?.I don't know why some lawyers sick his dick so much but I really hate that. Same with Komrade, cawk, obelix.

props for STALKER for this post. Jus sayin.

Hellmai - very good player. Completely incapable of playing with others. EATDIX.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Teela on July 12, 2015, 07:54:49 PM
I was in Lawyers in the very beginning. Then didnt play for around 2 months.
Then Paragon told me to go to Vtec, i didnt like that base but i moved. Then i played for quite a long time in Vtec, was learning to play.

Then server population got very low. Vtecs were swarming all enemies, no enemies for me to fight against.

Made new character in family (and i was still quite weak player then). From time to time i played as both family and Vtec, some (Brahmin Boys) didnt like it and they started to shot at me (Brahmin Boys) so... i defended (as Family).

Then Komrade and Courier got angry i am killing their "allies" and i was given  a choice - play family or vtec not two at same time, so i picked 3rd option, i joined back to Lawyers who at that time didnt have almost any player, then i kept playing solo for around month (i am pretty sure most of you remember my solo toilet controls, thats when i gained more gameplay skills),

then slowly some lawyers started to join with me (and thats when i started to gain experience in team fights by being constantly swarmed by Family/BB alliance). Then Alex led us and i helped him form the pact with Vtecs, the "If you see both Family and BB's, we can join hands against them if both Lawyer and Vtec side agree".

 Then there was server big rollback. After that i kept playing with Lawyers only. At some point i stopped playing at all and had 2 weeks break. Then i returned to Vtec and started to play with them and at same time with Lawyers. After around 2 months Windrunner came back to Lawyers and i was kicked from his main squad which he and GBK made because Alex left the game, then i played much much more as Vtec.

 After 2 weeks i returned briefly to Lawyers and found out that there are 2 squads, the other consisted of people who were kicked by GBK. I joined that squad (it was Matthew and Thomas squad). Then Windrunner and GBK left again because they had no people in squad.

 Then i played in Lawyers again (since they had very low numbers... again) and after 1 month GBK and Windrunner returned and played with us from time to time. More less at same time courier joined the squad. There were a lot of time when only GBK, Windrunner, Courier were online so then i swiched to Vtecs and then Caboose started to shot at me out of blue.

I didnt play in Vtec for quite some time after that. So i decided to go back to family (at the beginning i used my brother's character "Tsunami" since i had to level up new char) since Courier was no longer there. Then we played and played.

 Around 2 weeks later some friends from Vtec asked me to play with them, i told them i would be shot by Caboose so there is no point. They told me to make new character and so i did make new char "Speedy", that was the must funny time i ever had in AoP.

 1 month later i had to leave to Germany so i left all my equipment with Paragon as he was the only person online at that time whom could be trusted with that, well i kind of screwed it up because i realized that i should leave the equipment for others to use, 1 day before my departure.

 3 months later i returned to my country and there was a wipe in AoP and i joined the Vtecs. Since i made new char Hellmai and had plenty of experience, i killed lots of new players and gained a lot of equipment at start of session.

But still Caboose kept shooting at me adding more equipment to my pile of loot. So i decided to make new char and and played with him, being muted on mumble all the time and he never expected it. That was also very fun time.

 In the end server population got lower, so i joined Family (because Matthew and Thomas also joined their brother Caboose and me in Vtec, there was almost no one left in Lawyers whom i knew, and i made it like "I returned after i quit the game because Vtecs kept teamkilling me", that was also fun time playing hidden in Vtec and Family and pissing Caboose off. Then Cirn0 quit and not many were left to maintain the server, so it slowly fell apart.

So that's pretty much what happened. More or less...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 12, 2015, 09:31:13 PM
I was in Lawyers in the very beginning.
Then didnt play for around 2 months.
Then Paragon told me to go to Vtec, i didnt like that base but i moved. Then i played for quite a long time in Vtec, was learning to play.
Then server population got very low. Vtecs were swarming all enemies, no enemies for me to fight against.
Made new character in family (and i was still quite weak player then). From time to time i played as both family and Vtec, some (Brahmin Boys) didnt like it and they started to shot at me (Brahmin Boys) so... i defended (as Family). Then Komrade and Courier got angry i am killing their "allies" and i was given  a choice - play family or vtec not two at same time, so i picked 3rd option, i joined back to Lawyers who at that time didnt have almost any player, then i kept playing solo for around month (i am pretty sure most of you remember my solo toilet controls, thats when i gained more gameplay skills), then slowly some lawyers started to join with me (and thats when i started to gain experience in team fights by being constantly swarmed by Family/BB alliance). Then Alex led us and i helped him form the pact with Vtecs, the "If you see both Family and BB's, we can join hands against them if both Lawyer and Vtec side agree". Then there was server big rollback. After that i kept playing with Lawyers only. At some point i stopped playing at all and had 2 weeks break. Then i returned to Vtec and started to play with them and at same time with Lawyers. After around 2 months Windrunner came back to Lawyers and i was kicked from his main squad which he and GBK made because Alex left the game, then i played much much more as Vtec. After 2 weeks i returned briefly to Lawyers and found out that there are 2 squads, the other consisted of people who were kicked by GBK. I joined that squad (it was Matthew and Thomas squad). Then Windrunner and GBK left again because they had no people in squad. Then i played in Lawyers again (since they had very low numbers... again) and after 1 month GBK and Windrunner returned and played with us from time to time. More less at same time courier joined the squad. There were a lot of time when only GBK, Windrunner, Courier were online so then i swiched to Vtecs and then Caboose started to shot at me out of blue. I didnt play in Vtec for quite some time after that. So i decided to go back to family (at the beginning i used my brother's character "Tsunami" since i had to level up new char) since Courier was no longer there. Then we played and played. Around 2 weeks later some friends from Vtec asked me to play with them, i told them i would be shot by Caboose so there is no point. They told me to make new character and so i did make new char "Speedy", that was the must funny time i ever had in AoP. 1 month later i had to leave to Germany so i left all my equipment with Paragon as he was the only person online at that time whom could be trusted with that, well i kind of screwed it up because i realized that i should leave the equipment for others to use, 1 day before my departure. 3 months later i returned to my country and there was a wipe in AoP and i joined the Vtecs. Since i made new char Hellmai and had plenty of experience, i killed lots of new players and gained a lot of equipment at start of session. But still Caboose kept shooting at me adding more equipment to my pile of loot. So i decided to make new char and and played with him, being muted on mumble all the time and he never expected it. That was also very fun time. In the end server population got lower, so i joined Family (because Matthew and Thomas also joined their brother Caboose and me in Vtec, there was almost no one left in Lawyers whom i knew, and i made it like "I returned after i quit the game because Vtecs kept teamkilling me", that was also fun time playing hidden in Vtec and Family and pissing Caboose off. Then Cirn0 quit and not many were left to maintain the server, so it slowly fell apart.

So that's pretty much what happened. More or less...

this text is confusing and trying to explain switching is funny , im just wondering who gave u work in germany lol ... im not sure if u can follow basic workflows ... cirn0 quit ? after wipe ? u never played even more than one day for any faction so its topkek better fap

say no to paragraphs
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 13, 2015, 03:46:21 AM
I don't remember playing much with Speedy, but it rises my concern about the trust. You knew we didn't want faction switchers and still were doing it hidden and being in mumble? That's pretty low from you.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Anza on July 13, 2015, 05:06:05 AM
Hellmei I think you don't even realize what people are upset about. It is not about playing 1 month in a faction then 1 month on another, it's about switching all the time, especially to be in the already winning team.

I played with you quite a few times before the rollback with Alex and you play good that's for sure. And you can stick with the team when you feel like it. But when you started the law/fam switches, even if it was only few times, it did happen that you switched to go fam when they were already winning, also we had situations where fam swarmed us with you in, but next fight you were still with them. Again, not saying you were going ALL the time with the winning team, but you did it enough to piss people off.

That combined with your "social skills" aka "If you angry with me, suck it i dont give a fuck" didn't help to make you have friends :P I remember I was defending you, then the situations above happened and I looked like an idiot  ;D
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 13, 2015, 05:19:25 AM
I think what a lot of people are missing here is that Hellmoi helped mobilise opposing teams. There would be a lot of times that we only had PvP because he was able to get people together.

Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 13, 2015, 05:35:48 AM
I don't remember playing much with Speedy, but it rises my concern about the trust. You knew we didn't want faction switchers and still were doing it hidden and being in mumble? That's pretty low from you.

You probably won't agree with me, but this is one of the reason everyone should be much more open about faction switching. If you ban faction switching, people would just change nickname and lie about it. You won't prevent it, and you won't know who did it. If you are open about it, people will tell you they are X from faction Y. You might like it or not, but at least you would know it and be able to express your opinion to the guy and maybe use that link to communicate with the faction he came from. But, in any case, there is no way you would be able to prevent it.

PS: I am no way upset with Hellmoi, although we had very opposite diplomacy goals. He wanted to antagonize family and allie with VTEC while i was making efforts to soften our relationships with Family and i refused to work for our blue invaders (they were constantly taking Adams). But it was fair games, IMO, as each of us had legitimate reasons. When he switched at the wrong time (to increase a swarm), we told him at the moment, then moved on. There is no reason to blame him about it for months.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 13, 2015, 06:01:18 AM
I think what a lot of people are missing here is that Hellmoi helped mobilise opposing teams. There would be a lot of times that we only had PvP because he was able to get people together.

Long term, stable team mobilising is not Hellmoi's goal. He is a troll and thrives on chaos. From everything he's said, the bottom line is that HE wanted enemies to fight against. The answer is not to antagonise every faction, it's to set up stable teams with people you enjoy playing with. I don't see why this is so difficult a concept to grasp.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 13, 2015, 06:20:53 AM
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Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 13, 2015, 06:39:06 AM
Yeah, I won't agree. I know people I play with by voices at least. In the best case scenario, I don't need others (e.g. without microphones). And there's no way you can pass it.

If you are going against my team-rules (such as team-switching), you're not supposed to be in my team. For others, I don't care which faction you are, fonline is a war for resources and if you get them and use them for different from my team proposes, you're the enemy.

In the current server situation it doesn't matter much though. But I still keep track of peoples' personalities...

as I believe people should be more open-minded for killing characters from the same faction (:

I have no problem with communication with adequate people from other teams. Hellmai can play whatever team and faction he wants, I've been with him for a long time to respect him as a person and have it over the game's events. Although even that could be changed if he... e.g. like Stalker.. but he doesn't, so it's ok (:
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: mafiapl on July 13, 2015, 07:19:31 AM
To make up to you for not using paragraphs i decided to rewrite my story.

Once upon a time there was a game called Ashes of Phoenix. I was informed about the game from GlowTrotter and Paragon. After some while i decided to check it out, when i created new character i have joined the faction called Lawyers, to bring justice to all the trash of the wastelands. The game came out to be quite boring, there were many flaws, a lot of teamkilling, the fighting system was unbalanced. I have assisted in bringing justice to many of my fellow Lawyers who decided to spy and betray our faction, but after some time of cleaning the useless players i decided to give it a break.

My pause from the game lasted 2 months. I came back to game to see that the clan of APK players i was in wanted to move to Vtec faction. I have went to scout. After checking all 3 other factions i realized that the Family had much better players, while Vtecs had Knights of the Wastelands. I believe i have no need to tell you readers what's the gameplay skill of KotW. It was to say at the very least not good enough. My extensive intelligence report was ignored and thus the clan and I moved to Vtecs. I had to constantly tell them on mumble how bad they were and they did not follow all of the commands. People should learn to absolutely obey the orders, but it was not the case, as they lost the ability of humans - learning.

I have decided it's time for a change, this state could not go on. How could one such as myself play with them.

Created new character in the faction Family. Since i was still in the Vtec, i decided to use that one to my advantage. I spied on my old allies - new enemies so that i could gain the advantage in battles. I always knew what they were coming with and was able to prepare and tell whole Family what to expect. The fights were so easy and enjoyable. I liked the slaughter of the vermin. But alas not all of them agreed to this glorious strategy. The faction Brahmin Boys that we were allied with was looting all the equipment in almost all our battled. Damn thiefs.

The battles were piece of cake, sending the weak players first and acting as meat shields while we hugged the glory and performed surprise attacks from flanks. Me and my friend Courier were literally destroying them, he was playing as sniper sneaker and i was distracting them with melee, it was a great combination. We pissed at our enemies corpses.

At some point i decided to voice out my objections about Brahmin Boys, this stealing of equipment had to stop, they contributed nothing to the battle, fighting with melee and coming half-naked. Thats when it all started, they didn't seem to like what i told them. The Brahmin Boys started to attack me when i was alone, but obviously they were no match for me even when ganging up on me.

One day when Brahmin Boys frustration came to it's peak they decided to gang up on me during one of Zone Control actions. I remember it very clearly, they attacked me when i was defending the house from possible sneakers of the Vtecs and they came at me with 5 people. I died, but i took down 2 of them.

This state could not go on, while i had to fend off both the Vtecs and Brahmin Boys, i have decided to leave them and join back to the Lawyers faction. This was done with the help of my friend Courier, we created a plot to make everyone think that the two of us were mortal enemies and I left the family because i didn't like him. Thus such false story was fed to the Lawyers and i was accepted into their ranks.

The following month was glorious. After some time i always fought at least 2 enemies at once, never did enemy came alone at me, hah smart move. There was none to match my power, but how long can you play alone and keep killing the weaklings. Well i started to socialize with the rest of those mediocre Lawyers. They were painfully weak, but an idea came to my mind. Why should i switch to other faction again if i can use them as cannon fodder to train my commanding skills.

It was the right thing to do. Most of the time i used them as meatshield to position myself in such way that i could deal great amounts of damage to enemies. Thanks to that there wasn't a damn soul who didn't know me in the server.

After some time i realized that there was too much of boring work to be done related to leading. Then i came up with the brilliant idea of shifting that responsibility to someone else, his name was Alex or something like that, the fool never saw it coming.

Then again i was enlightened with other brilliant long term plan. To cheat my way into the ranks of Vtecs yet again, so that i can refresh my knowledge about their tactics and skill. Since the Family and Brahmin Boys were still in alliance, i suggested Vtecs to make a pact of non-agression to each other if any of our sides encounters that Alliance. The blue monkeys never thought that it was all a plot just to make them lower their guards to potential spies in their ranks, thus my infiltration went on smoothly.

Time went on and i was quite happy. One day the guy from New Order clan showed up. His nickname was WindRunner. He was quite good player and decent commander, it was refreshing to see someone being able to do something in during fights, besides me.

All good things must end, so Alex left, i shifted the boring leadership to WindRunner. In meantime my friend Courier came to Lawyers, i was happy to see such decent player here.

At some point i realized that players called Matthew, Thomas, Naossano, Anza and few others that are not worthy of mention, they were in reality Vtec spies. I informed of this discovery Grand Bill King, who kicked them from squads, served them right for betraying faction. But i had to be sure that there are no more spies. Thus i came up with the plan. First thing i did was to start teamkilling my friend Courier, if he could be stepping stone to this plan i didn't hesitate to use him. So the consequences were that i was kicked from squad, all went as planned. I have spread the false word of Courier's betrayal to other factions, while at same time gaining favor of the spies that were in Lawyers.

With the boosted reputation i had no problem getting into ranks of Vtecs and new Lawyers squad (the one with Matthew and Thoman). This was the time when i worked to figure out who's in which faction and who more was spying. I started to play both as Vtec and Lawyer.

There was this one player Caboose who always badmouthed me, so i decided to constantly spy on him using my fake Vtec character and kill him while he was defenceless in dungeons. That was very enjoyable, but the camping in toilets for him was little bit boring.

Some time laters, number of Lawyers fell down and i have noticed that Family numbers grew. It was time to join them and swarm some Lawyers for amusement. Thus i created new character Tsunami and played hidden with them, they never knew it was me.

One day i felt betrayed by Game-Master who discovered that Tsunami was in fact Hellmai, but i was smarter and quicker. I fed family and other factions some lies how that character is my brother's and i never used it again to prevent loss of my reputation.

The days went on and i enjoyed always playing on the winning side, using my multifunctioning.

Things got rather dull after some time, so i decided to refresh things and make fun of Caboose by creating new character in Vtec, called Speedy. It was very enjoyable to sabotage their fights. To make things more fun i even got into their mumble. It was the best time during my whole encounter with Ashes of Phoenix.

But as i said before, the good things never last and i was forced to leave my country thus leaving the game. As my last ditch of effort to poke Lawyers in the eye, i gave access to all my characters to enemy faction so that they can spy on Lawyers, it was priceless to imagine their expressions.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 13, 2015, 07:36:51 AM
One more time but use titles for significant themed text parts please.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 13, 2015, 07:43:12 AM
Can you highlight specific peoples names with the factions they play in? Please and thank you.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 13, 2015, 07:57:45 AM
You might need to pick another username for your next char. Otherwise, people might get a bit pissed to see that name again.

Other than that, all of this seems pretty vain and so old servers. You seem to still consider factions as if they were still mortal enemies, while most players seems to get along pretty well, especially compared with early days of the cession, and infinitely better than in other servers. Even VTEC reputation got toned down a bit, IMO. (i might be very lucky, but i've seen a lot of balanced fight lately, and even fight in which they still came at lower number. And Caboose/Paragon trolled a lot less lately) All factions need each others if they want to have some fun. You gain nothing trying to destroy one of them. (and i doubt you "hate" for Courrier gained you any support from the law)

PS: Dunno if i should laugh or not about the part of Naossano, Thomas, Matthew, Anza being spies from VTEC. Dunno about Anza, but i can tell than i am no way a VTEC (as least this cession), while Thomas & Matthew were OUTSPOKEN VTEC, not spies. They outright told us they were VTEC, that they still had VTEC characters, and even family ties with some of them and we accepted them. They didn't lie about their potential conflict of interest, just like Paragon didn't lie about having access to your characters.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 13, 2015, 08:23:16 AM
Naossano is a spy.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 13, 2015, 08:41:00 AM
I don't think Hellmoi's story is 100% correct.

GBK kicked me and Thomas from the squad because he saw us fight against him as V Techs , the day he lost his legendary DSR. We shortly got invited back in again but none of the other lawyers that had the user name and password were available, so we created a new squad which exists to this day and thrives.

Also, Hellmoi contradicts himself here, by calling others a v tech spy, when he was himself.

You have a very good sense of humour. Chuckled all the way through your post.

+1
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Anza on July 13, 2015, 09:12:29 AM
Seems Lawyers can't see a troll post ;D
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 13, 2015, 09:21:39 AM
Can't see you either. Where are you ?
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 13, 2015, 10:05:42 AM
To make up to you for not using paragraphs i decided to rewrite my story.

Once upon a time there was a game called Ashes of Phoenix. I was informed about the game from GlowTrotter and Paragon. After some while i decided to check it out, when i created new character i have joined the faction called Lawyers, to bring justice to all the trash of the wastelands. The game came out to be quite boring, there were many flaws, a lot of teamkilling, the fighting system was unbalanced. I have assisted in bringing justice to many of my fellow Lawyers who decided to spy and betray our faction, but after some time of cleaning the useless players i decided to give it a break.

My pause from the game lasted 2 months. I came back to game to see that the clan of APK players i was in wanted to move to Vtec faction. I have went to scout. After checking all 3 other factions i realized that the Family had much better players, while Vtecs had Knights of the Wastelands. I believe i have no need to tell you readers what's the gameplay skill of KotW. It was to say at the very least not good enough. My extensive intelligence report was ignored and thus the clan and I moved to Vtecs. I had to constantly tell them on mumble how bad they were and they did not follow all of the commands. People should learn to absolutely obey the orders, but it was not the case, as they lost the ability of humans - learning.

I have decided it's time for a change, this state could not go on. How could one such as myself play with them.

Created new character in the faction Family. Since i was still in the Vtec, i decided to use that one to my advantage. I spied on my old allies - new enemies so that i could gain the advantage in battles. I always knew what they were coming with and was able to prepare and tell whole Family what to expect. The fights were so easy and enjoyable. I liked the slaughter of the vermin. But alas not all of them agreed to this glorious strategy. The faction Brahmin Boys that we were allied with was looting all the equipment in almost all our battled. Damn thiefs.

The battles were piece of cake, sending the weak players first and acting as meat shields while we hugged the glory and performed surprise attacks from flanks. Me and my friend Courier were literally destroying them, he was playing as sniper sneaker and i was distracting them with melee, it was a great combination. We pissed at our enemies corpses.

At some point i decided to voice out my objections about Brahmin Boys, this stealing of equipment had to stop, they contributed nothing to the battle, fighting with melee and coming half-naked. Thats when it all started, they didn't seem to like what i told them. The Brahmin Boys started to attack me when i was alone, but obviously they were no match for me even when ganging up on me.

One day when Brahmin Boys frustration came to it's peak they decided to gang up on me during one of Zone Control actions. I remember it very clearly, they attacked me when i was defending the house from possible sneakers of the Vtecs and they came at me with 5 people. I died, but i took down 2 of them.

This state could not go on, while i had to fend off both the Vtecs and Brahmin Boys, i have decided to leave them and join back to the Lawyers faction. This was done with the help of my friend Courier, we created a plot to make everyone think that the two of us were mortal enemies and I left the family because i didn't like him. Thus such false story was fed to the Lawyers and i was accepted into their ranks.

The following month was glorious. After some time i always fought at least 2 enemies at once, never did enemy came alone at me, hah smart move. There was none to match my power, but how long can you play alone and keep killing the weaklings. Well i started to socialize with the rest of those mediocre Lawyers. They were painfully weak, but an idea came to my mind. Why should i switch to other faction again if i can use them as cannon fodder to train my commanding skills.

It was the right thing to do. Most of the time i used them as meatshield to position myself in such way that i could deal great amounts of damage to enemies. Thanks to that there wasn't a damn soul who didn't know me in the server.

After some time i realized that there was too much of boring work to be done related to leading. Then i came up with the brilliant idea of shifting that responsibility to someone else, his name was Alex or something like that, the fool never saw it coming.

Then again i was enlightened with other brilliant long term plan. To cheat my way into the ranks of Vtecs yet again, so that i can refresh my knowledge about their tactics and skill. Since the Family and Brahmin Boys were still in alliance, i suggested Vtecs to make a pact of non-agression to each other if any of our sides encounters that Alliance. The blue monkeys never thought that it was all a plot just to make them lower their guards to potential spies in their ranks, thus my infiltration went on smoothly.

Time went on and i was quite happy. One day the guy from New Order clan showed up. His nickname was WindRunner. He was quite good player and decent commander, it was refreshing to see someone being able to do something in during fights, besides me.

All good things must end, so Alex left, i shifted the boring leadership to WindRunner. In meantime my friend Courier came to Lawyers, i was happy to see such decent player here.

At some point i realized that players called Matthew, Thomas, Naossano, Anza and few others that are not worthy of mention, they were in reality Vtec spies. I informed of this discovery Grand Bill King, who kicked them from squads, served them right for betraying faction. But i had to be sure that there are no more spies. Thus i came up with the plan. First thing i did was to start teamkilling my friend Courier, if he could be stepping stone to this plan i didn't hesitate to use him. So the consequences were that i was kicked from squad, all went as planned. I have spread the false word of Courier's betrayal to other factions, while at same time gaining favor of the spies that were in Lawyers.

With the boosted reputation i had no problem getting into ranks of Vtecs and new Lawyers squad (the one with Matthew and Thoman). This was the time when i worked to figure out who's in which faction and who more was spying. I started to play both as Vtec and Lawyer.

There was this one player Caboose who always badmouthed me, so i decided to constantly spy on him using my fake Vtec character and kill him while he was defenceless in dungeons. That was very enjoyable, but the camping in toilets for him was little bit boring.

Some time laters, number of Lawyers fell down and i have noticed that Family numbers grew. It was time to join them and swarm some Lawyers for amusement. Thus i created new character Tsunami and played hidden with them, they never knew it was me.

One day i felt betrayed by Game-Master who discovered that Tsunami was in fact Hellmai, but i was smarter and quicker. I fed family and other factions some lies how that character is my brother's and i never used it again to prevent loss of my reputation.

The days went on and i enjoyed always playing on the winning side, using my multifunctioning.

Things got rather dull after some time, so i decided to refresh things and make fun of Caboose by creating new character in Vtec, called Speedy. It was very enjoyable to sabotage their fights. To make things more fun i even got into their mumble. It was the best time during my whole encounter with Ashes of Phoenix.

But as i said before, the good things never last and i was forced to leave my country thus leaving the game. As my last ditch of effort to poke Lawyers in the eye, i gave access to all my characters to enemy faction so that they can spy on Lawyers, it was priceless to imagine their expressions.

very nice post :D +1

u are a true artist when it comes down to this , even now they think u trolling haha ... indeed this made my day .
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Simms on July 13, 2015, 12:06:38 PM
My pause from the game lasted 2 months. I came back to game to see that the clan of APK players i was in wanted to move to Vtec faction. I have went to scout. After checking all 3 other factions i realized that the Family had much better players, while Vtecs had Knights of the Wastelands. I believe i have no need to tell you readers what's the gameplay skill of KotW. It was to say at the very least not good enough. My extensive intelligence report was ignored and thus the clan and I moved to Vtecs. I had to constantly tell them on mumble how bad they were and they did not follow all of the commands. People should learn to absolutely obey the orders, but it was not the case, as they lost the ability of humans - learning.
Oh boy. An entertaining piece of fiction indeed. The only little, ehm, mistakes I've found in your claims are:
1) You never had anything to do with V-Tec core folk in the described period.
2) You never had anything to do with KotW folks, not back then, not later, not ever.
3) You never had anything to do with commands, orders or whatever you're talking about. Don't make a laughing stock outta yourself claiming something so easily counterable by the others.

Other than that, the piece's composed well and with a touch of humor. Happy writing!
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 13, 2015, 12:22:19 PM
AOP fan fiction
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Stem Sunders on July 13, 2015, 12:42:59 PM
AOP fan fiction
ill write some!

Ill call it, Caboose X Stalker.

It will be a story of how you two get along so incredibly well. Starting as friends and quickly moving on to virtual lovers...

Shortly after that. You're ripped apart by a romeo and Juliet style plot twist, where in you both have to decide between your loyalties to your faction and your burning desire to be with one and other.

In the end, Stalker would switch ;D

Shame on myself. I too recently switched from Family to Lawyers...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 13, 2015, 02:32:53 PM
I think what a lot of people are missing here is that Hellmoi helped mobilise opposing teams. There would be a lot of times that we only had PvP because he was able to get people together.

Long term, stable team mobilising is not Hellmoi's goal. He is a troll and thrives on chaos. From everything he's said, the bottom line is that HE wanted enemies to fight against. The answer is not to antagonise every faction, it's to set up stable teams with people you enjoy playing with. I don't see why this is so difficult a concept to grasp.
Yep, same with Komrade. He's just a piece of shit that switches factions and trolls around.

Lol sunders xd
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Komrade on July 13, 2015, 02:44:11 PM
Don't give much thought to what stalker says, its his butthurt speaking.
He is just too sore from it lately  8)

Btw its time for you to start running fast, run stalker run  ;D 
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: mafiapl on July 13, 2015, 05:14:53 PM
Perhaps i did let my imagination run wild there a little bit.

Today was my day off, but i didn't spend all of it being lazy and watching anime, playing hearthstone and eating pizza.
http://ujeb.se/0iIIU
Enjoy.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 13, 2015, 05:31:34 PM
Don't give much thought to what stalker says, its his butthurt speaking.
He is just too sore from it lately  8)

Btw its time for you to start running fast, run stalker run  ;D
If that's all you can, how pathetic. I'm not even sure what you think I'm butthurt about, there hasn't been any pvp lately..... Oh well can't fix stupid.

Maybe help out your country instead of being a fail troll.  :D (and everyone has run away at some point)
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 14, 2015, 03:52:42 AM
Didn't read the doc as there's no subtitles. IMO fail

Edit:
good update, thx
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 14, 2015, 03:57:57 AM
To stay on-topic and spice it up a bit.

Who isn't currently lawyer and intend to join the faction next cession ?
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 25, 2015, 04:37:24 PM
To stay on-topic and spice it up a bit.

Who isn't currently lawyer and intend to join the faction next cession ?

Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 28, 2015, 03:20:26 PM
I heard Courier and STALKER got wrekt so hard in last week that they've quit. Can you confim/deny these rumours?
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 28, 2015, 03:35:57 PM
I heard Courier and STALKER got wrekt so hard in last week that they've quit. Can you confim/deny these rumours?
Last time I fought was against family, they one once and they lost the next. They ragequitted and No PvP has been happening sooo....yaa. I play other FOnlines you know  :-*
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 28, 2015, 03:39:10 PM
I didn't witnessed them being wrekt last week or this one.
But the recents days haven't been heavy on PVP, at least on AOP.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 28, 2015, 04:46:21 PM
Been none stop action tonight.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 28, 2015, 05:09:05 PM
Been none stop action swarming tonight.
Fixed it for you

Also one of the reasons why I don't want to play.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: twat on July 28, 2015, 06:41:32 PM
cowardice will not attract new players.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 28, 2015, 07:12:07 PM
Been none stop action swarming tonight.
Fixed it for you

Also one of the reasons why I don't want to play.

can agree but on the other hand ive encountered one fight today were we ahd equal numbers and tecs raped us hard , i think law in general doesnt have some solid team ... just a bunch of randoms imo . thats why i dont wanna play atm ...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 29, 2015, 02:57:16 AM
We are a bunch of randoms courier. or rambos :P
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 29, 2015, 03:37:50 AM
The whole server is made of randoms bro. It is the whole point of AOP. Everyone is free to play with each other without being forced to respect old and outdated pre-established teams, unlike those Fo2/2238/Reloaded relics.

Anyway, i don't know whoe is currently the new leader of the vtec, but he sucks even more than the previous one. A spy using the colors of the law... Come on... Even if Suff/Caboose were often un-sport, i never seen them going that low... VERY disapointing...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 29, 2015, 05:25:38 AM
The whole server is made of randoms bro. It is the whole point of AOP. Everyone is free to play with each other without being forced to respect old and outdated pre-established teams, unlike those Fo2/2238/Reloaded relics.

Anyway, i don't know whoe is currently the new leader of the vtec, but he sucks even more than the previous one. A spy using the colors of the law... Come on... Even if Suff/Caboose were often un-sport, i never seen them going that low... VERY disapointing...

Why do you make me reply to you?
I've always said Lawyer is mongrel dog, made up of far too many ego's. Whereas Vtec is pure breed, made up of genuine team play and players that like to actually play with eachother. When players from the 4 factions join up to one faction for 'balance', they've done it out of some bullshit idea of necessity and not because they actually want to or even enjoy their teammates.

I can't speak for Suff, but I think he's having a break. I obviously can only play Monday and Tuesday, so in my absence Ramon and Teela have been stepping up and doing a fine job at it. It takes the pressure off me and I was getting frustrated and angry.

As for spies, as far as I am aware, there are no Vtec spies in Lawyer. There was definately no discussion either in our mumble or ingame chat.

I wanna give massive props to Tenova for yesterdays fights, as he had a rough day from fight number 1 with some new Lawyers, it seems. But his tenacity and courage brought him back to the core alot more times after that, only to be criticised and attacked by courier on irc.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 29, 2015, 05:30:10 AM
Caboose thinks he's a big boy now  :'(

Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 29, 2015, 05:33:22 AM
Considering you don't have previous record of using spies, i don't think you were the one sending that guy, but this should stop. The whole playerbase spent countless of months without using them. There is no reason to bring those stuff back.

About the egos, i don't think it applies to more than 1-2 guys, not unlike the vtec, which have at least 3 big narcissist. About enjoying their teammates, i agree that it is better, but it isn't a requirement. By registering in a faction, you are automatically team mates of previous members of that faction, no matter if you like them or if they like you, contrary to Reloaded, for instance, where you are totally screwed if you don't get accepted by a group, and spend hard time if you want to change faction. The dev make a good work in creating that alternative with free-joining and free-switching on AOP. If you don't like that system, there is more than 2 servers that allow closed isolationists factions.

PS: VTEC fought well yesterday, and we did some bad shit. Not only that, but it is good to have targets in front. I disagree on the rest.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 29, 2015, 05:59:09 AM
Considering you don't have previous record of using spies, i don't think you were the one sending that guy, but this should stop. The whole playerbase spent countless of months without using them. There is no reason to bring those stuff back.

About the egos, i don't think it applies to more than 1-2 guys, not unlike the vtec, which have at least 3 big narcissist. About enjoying their teammates, i agree that it is better, but it isn't a requirement. By registering in a faction, you are automatically team mates of previous members of that faction, no matter if you like them or if they like you, contrary to Reloaded, for instance, where you are totally screwed if you don't get accepted by a group, and spend hard time if you want to change faction. The dev make a good work in creating that alternative with free-joining and free-switching on AOP. If you don't like that system, there is more than 2 servers that allow closed isolationists factions.

PS: VTEC fought well yesterday, and we did some bad shit. Not only that, but it is good to have targets in front. I disagree on the rest.

Tell me name of the spy and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

BUT there have been countless spies throughout the last months. 'Monster' is a law spy that is used to determine our position and numbers during ZC - he's even in a video where hes following our sneakers in eastern square. I know who this is, but will not say, because he was stopped. 'STALKER' comes on and checks how many are gathering for Vtec ZC on a weekly basis. 'Hellma'i used his Vtec chartacter to determine who was farming Robco level 2 and Poly level 2 for repair kits and proceeded to log to a family character and attack them. We've even had Lawyer and Family players pose as Vtec players and even attack our own squad in the back during ZC, I can recall one fight in Global Electrics.

By the way, this server is very early development, I can't see it being free switching forever and it's certainly not a feature. it's same as free rerolls, it's so we can test everything without having to reroll completely new characters. People pretty much stick with one faction and only switch to exploit, so let's see where that ends up.

Yeah VTEC did play well, only saw you either running or dying tho, bro.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 29, 2015, 06:02:11 AM
I think it was lvhoang. He prepared soil for it for a long

While naossano is playing Fonline AoP of some naive parallel world, in my world having someone in mumble/ZC group being a spy or at least somebody with a hidden personality always were an issue. Some of v-tec team switchers tried to openly for a leaders use it against lawyers as well, but were said to stop. Still it doesn't take much to infiltrate and share insider info with your team without them knowing how do you know it.

Devs can't provide you team by giving you ability to join a faction, the history knows many examples to prove that's nothing close to real. And your complains about spies is just another example.

I'm not expecting you to realise it though (: There's no reason to try to argument with me about it as well. Although, if you actually have some facts to discuss, sure, go on. But make it different from just your opinion.

Spy warfare is a common feature yet.

I have an idea from this at least. The char with higher reputation attacking the the char with lower reputation shouldn't lose reputation. With all hard work made y Cirn to make rep valid solid value, it should work fine.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 29, 2015, 07:34:33 AM
I am suffering from burn out at the moment and I don't have the motivation to really try. Maybe in a few weeks I will come back and try to sort a core team out. At least the majority of us are using team speak.

Yeah "Monster" is my V tech character and is used to determine if I am wasting my time trying to start ZC. If there are no enemies, then there is no point.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: lvhoang on July 29, 2015, 07:40:05 AM
Paragon, you re trying to stab random people in the dark. Anyway, keep it up with the paranoia. You should probably remember what side I play on (Read the posts). No point arguing. But good to see you still remember your first love. :)

PS: reminds me of your earlier posts when you said Laws crashed the forum when they were about to lose... lol
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 29, 2015, 07:45:08 AM
I am suffering from burn out at the moment and I don't have the motivation to really try. Maybe in a few weeks I will come back and try to sort a core team out. At least the majority of us are using team speak.

Yeah "Monster" is my V tech character and is used to determine if I am wasting my time trying to start ZC. If there are no enemies, then there is no point.

Have a break for a week or so, does you alot of good. Let the Lawyers work it our for themselves for a bit.

I agree with Paragon, spy warfare has it's place, but it's upto each team to police it etc. If I discover you, be prepared to be TK'd and shunned from squad.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 29, 2015, 09:29:52 AM
blyad
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 29, 2015, 11:28:04 AM
Tell me name of the spy and I'll make sure it doesn't happen again.

I don't know who is using this account. Only seen the name of that law character. But thanks for your proposal.

About the ones spying the vtec, i can't tell. I almost never used my vtec char (they were never lacking members) outside scavenging/levelling/visiting the base, and never asked squad membership there. So i can't check who spied you or if you were actually spied. So i'll take your word on that. I hope this has stopped and won't happen again in the cession. We don't need spying. We want good pvp, not a quick 5 seconds win and i am sure most old lawyers don't endorse it either, except for the example mentioned by piggy.

As for the faction switching, i am not sure either if it would be easier or harder in the future to use the same character in multiple faction (i hope it would be easier), but it will always be possible to create multiple characters in multiple factions, if you got tired of previous faction, if you aren't enough or way too many, so the game would be playable for everyone. Regardless if you like it, or not, it promotes a different team philosophy than other servers, with their closed faction and all those poisonous isolationist behaviors they create (i spent years on one of those servers and i am glad i am not seeing some of those behaviors again. Some guys litterally hate it others for 5 or 6 years now). It is great to have those differents philosophy in different servers, as not everyone like to play with/agains't the same people forever. There are servers that allow isolationism, and other, more opens. Pick your choice according to your preference, but don't try to force isolationism on the only server that is open for switch and exchanges.

PS: I wish you a good resting Piggy. I dunno if i'll stop playing, but i would probably be out too, except when poked for PVP. Tired of waiting for action or trying to gather for action, or only having action way too late on the night, when it is almost bedtime.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 29, 2015, 12:58:54 PM
rest in pepperoni
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 29, 2015, 01:11:01 PM
Meanwhile suff is spying on us with his GM alt
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: RazorRamon on July 29, 2015, 01:45:23 PM
i use johns gm alt to spawn me wakizashis and sneakboys in events
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 29, 2015, 01:51:51 PM
One of suff's nickname on IRC is paragoid which is short for paranoia. (illuminati confirmed)

Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 29, 2015, 06:59:33 PM
One of suff's nickname on IRC is paragoid which is short for paranoia. (illuminati confirmed)

Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

Yes I do.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 29, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
the only honorable player is courier
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: S.T.A.L.K.E.R on July 30, 2015, 01:27:38 AM
the only honorable player is courier
You want honor? Commit Sepukko :D
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 30, 2015, 03:55:53 AM
Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

You are contradicting yourself a bit. A serious hardcore player look for challenge, not cheap tricks that will rob him for that challenge or any fight, or the committement of his opponements. Beside that, Piggy said himself that he wasn't spying but checking activity.

PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 30, 2015, 04:32:04 AM
Sometimes, im not using the right words. I meant "casual" as for playing for fun and "serious" as for playing seriously to achieve victory by all means.

Not the "casual" vs "hardcore perma death roguelike no levelup no armor no bonfire challenge" debate.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 30, 2015, 04:39:31 AM
Was clear to you what you've meant there.
It's probably more perception/attitude stereotype issue than wording.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 30, 2015, 06:39:40 AM
Seriously if the most casual minded player (piggy) is casually spying (to check activity), what do you think the most serious hardcore player would do ? play fair maybe ?

You are contradicting yourself a bit. A serious hardcore player look for challenge, not cheap tricks that will rob him for that challenge or any fight, or the committement of his opponements. Beside that, Piggy said himself that he wasn't spying but checking activity.

PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...

Since when was checking activity not spying?? Call a fucking spade a fucking spade.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 30, 2015, 06:44:45 AM
From my perspective... Checking activity is a time saving exercise ( you only get one life ).... Spying would entail checking numbers and relaying weapons etc. As we are on a low population server, checking to see if anyone is available to contest is sometimes needed.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 30, 2015, 07:48:19 AM
PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...

god dont has a voice too
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 30, 2015, 08:02:22 AM
Checking activity is checking numbers at least. Gimme another algorithm if you know any.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 30, 2015, 08:14:31 AM
Suff, you might play with words all day, but piggy clearly explained what he was doing and i am pretty sure you understood him. If you want to call it with another word or color it with hostile intents, it is your call, but most people can read his sentence and understand what he said. Beside that, he told you the name of the char.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 30, 2015, 08:19:22 AM
Checking activity is checking numbers at least. Gimme another algorithm if you know any.

I guess we disagree here. I don't think you have a concept of variations in people's intentions.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 30, 2015, 08:28:48 AM
1. I've never seen name of the checker char used to describe his propose before the name was stated by Caboose.
2. I don't think algorithm of doing something has any connection to concept of variations in people's intentions.
If government is using video cameras in your toilet "for your safety", I doubt you'll care about that "intention".
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 30, 2015, 09:21:15 AM
1. I've never seen name of the checker char used to describe his propose before the name was stated by Caboose.
2. I don't think algorithm of doing something has any connection to concept of variations in people's intentions.
If government is using video cameras in your toilet "for your safety", I doubt you'll care about that "intention".

Video cameras in toilets? I'd call that "sexy".
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: FrankenStone on July 30, 2015, 09:36:51 AM
u all homo
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 30, 2015, 09:58:37 AM
Video cameras in toilets? I'd call that "sexy".

No need to wait for government then, use web cam in your toilet, stream online.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 30, 2015, 10:01:17 AM
PS: Courrier need a voice if he want to be judged...

god dont has a voice too

Metatron is voice of god
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 30, 2015, 10:06:23 AM
If government is using video cameras in your toilet "for your safety", I doubt you'll care about that "intention".

I believe the more accurate comparison is using satellite pictures to see how many countries have the most lights during the night. If there is no lights, there isn't activity. If there is many light, activity is likely. It doesn't say what activity those people are practicing, how many are doing those, or for how long. It just says "there is activity". No government/companies would(or should) prosecute you for that. It becomes a problem when you start monitoring their conversations, their schedules, their opinions, who they spend time with etc...
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 30, 2015, 10:13:28 AM
I believe the more accurate comparison is using satellite pictures to see how many countries have the most lights during the night. If there is no lights, there isn't activity. If there is many light, activity is likely. It doesn't say what activity those people are practicing, how many are doing those, or for how long. It just says "there is activity". No government/companies would(or should) prosecute you for that. It becomes a problem when you start monitoring their conversations, their schedules, their opinions, who they spend time with etc...

It'll be certainly not standing on grid, but sooner IRC checking.
Standing on grid provide you all info about number, faction chat, used armor, partially weapons, personalities of players, time of leaving the base, grouping.

You can hide from satellite and irc, but not from toilet and base grid.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: naossano on July 30, 2015, 10:18:54 AM
This is not what i am refering.
What i think of is logging in a faction, look if i am the only one there or if there is more, (at least 2-3 people) then log-off. So i would know that, if i am triggening something in the core, i could hope for PVP or not. The fact there are people don't mean they will come. But the fact they aren't there mean i am 100% sure they won't come, so no need to bother. If this is what we are talking about, it is fair and it is consistent with the goal mentioned by Piggy.

If it is standing near the grid, see how many people gathered, how much time it took them, what weapons they have, what they are saying to each other, what is their plan, then wait for them to leave, see the squad grid to check in which map/zone they are, then go in said map and check for their position, then log off and call the strike on this position, this is a not defendable at all, it is outright spying and it isn't consistent with Piggy previous explanation.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Count Matthew on July 30, 2015, 10:21:42 AM
Video cameras in toilets? I'd call that "sexy".

No need to wait for government then, use web cam in your toilet, stream online.

Only if you watch.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Caboose on July 30, 2015, 10:24:55 AM
This is not what i am refering.
What i think of is logging in a faction, look if i am the only one there or if there is more, (at least 2-3 people) then log-off. If this is what we are talking about, it is fair and it is consistent with the goal mentioned by Piggy.

If it is standing near the grid, see how many people gathered, how much time it took them, what weapons they have, what they are saying to each other, then wait for them to leave, see the squad grid to check in which map they are, then go in said map and check for their position, then log off and call the strike on this position, this is a not defendable spying that isn't consistent with Piggy previous explanation.

Niamak's video clearly shows 'Monster' in bluesuit following vtec players in Eastern Square, during ZC. Maybe Niamak can help by posting video if he still has it.

Also 'Monster' as appeared at grid entrance at many occasions before during and after ZC.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: paragon on July 30, 2015, 10:27:52 AM
It's well known that what you're referring to is not what actually happening when players use alts on grid.

You won't know anything if you leave as soon as 2 chars appear at grid. They might never leave it, just afking there.
Title: Re: Attention Lawyers
Post by: Niamak on July 30, 2015, 10:29:53 AM
The line is easily crossed naossano. We can only hope every player have the same casual mindset as piggy.