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[faopcurious]

We need a dueling area so you can fight, and test things with people in your faction without losing rep.
Maybe make it so when you die you cannot be looted, like in the HQ.

[mAdman]

A back room in each base, where there are no guards, used to "train" for pvp. Yes!

You can pit the 2 "best" teams on your faction against each other to hone their skills, or just train newbies in relative safety.

Good idea.

[Myakot]

And kill PVP with that. Every1 will just farm a single piece of T3 and will happily pvp each other in the base, w/o losing anything.

[wojciech]

And kill PVP with that. Every1 will just farm a single piece of T3 and will happily pvp each other in the base, w/o losing anything.

You re wrong. Training pvp in base is old tradition, but You re newbie in fallout online so You will not understand it.

[Myakot]

"You're wrong, therefore I'm right" .
Suuuuureeee...

[Doobee]

"You're wrong, therefore I'm right" .
Suuuuureeee...

How else do you want people to get better? In mass PVP where you cant rely on the newb swarm that goes with you? Or maybe random PVP? Sure I will randomly bring MG42 only to try it out and learn to use it effectively. Dude youre as wrong as it gets.

[Armadingo]

And kill PVP with that. Every1 will just farm a single piece of T3 and will happily pvp each other in the base, w/o losing anything.

I doubt it.
Why? There is no point in doing safe PvP over and over again because there is no progression in it, you'd just be wasting ammo and/or equipment condition.

[wojciech]

And kill PVP with that. Every1 will just farm a single piece of T3 and will happily pvp each other in the base, w/o losing anything.

I doubt it.
Why? There is no point in doing safe PvP over and over again because there is no progression in it, you'd just be wasting ammo and/or equipment condition.

First example: You want test new weapon- shoot to friend in base.
Second example: You want to test critical shoots with Your char.
Third example: You want teach one of Your new teammate.

[Armadingo]

I think this is a good idea, it may help us learn how to PvP effectively without getting absolutely smashed and looted by someone that knows better.

[Butthead]

No way, pvp is pvp and there is no need for training or something. This idea sucks go away dumbass

[mAdman]

Who said anything about gaining XP or loot?

I figured the base rules would apply, you'd be unlootable in death and respawn in room/base.

[Niamak]

I heard a training dummy is planned for weapon testing.

[wojciech]

No way, pvp is pvp and there is no need for training or something. This idea sucks go away dumbass

Your mom.

[Myakot]

I said nothing about gaining something out of it, repairing condition and getting additional ammo is a piece of cake. Btw, There is nothing stopping you to just shoot each other in your platoon base, usually like 400 overall rep lost. And even if you lose more, like 4k.. Can it even be considered as a loss?
A shooting range with a practice dummy (whose settings you can change, like dr/dt) I'm up for, but arenas.. Whole phoenix is an arena :/.

[xXxDudexXx]

hinkly *cough cough*

[wojciech]

I said nothing about gaining something out of it, repairing condition and getting additional ammo is a piece of cake. Btw, There is nothing stopping you to just shoot each other in your platoon base, usually like 400 overall rep lost. And even if you lose more, like 4k.. Can it even be considered as a loss?
A shooting range with a practice dummy (whose settings you can change, like dr/dt) I'm up for, but arenas.. Whole phoenix is an arena :/.

Just dissable losing reputation in base and problem will be solved.

[Armadingo]

I said nothing about gaining something out of it

No, that was my reason for why it wouldn't kill PvP

There is nothing stopping you to just shoot each other in your platoon base, usually like 400 overall rep lost. And even if you lose more, like 4k.. Can it even be considered as a loss?

The guards prevent a proper duel and yes; 4k rep loss can be costly.

A shooting range with a practice dummy (whose settings you can change, like dr/dt) I'm up for, but arenas.. Whole phoenix is an arena :/.

A practice dummy does not compare to a real player.
Newer players should have a chance to learn how to properly fight with first hand experience, without losing their gear the entire time and get disencouraged by PvP.

[Myakot]

That will probably be a better choice, and Cirn0 knows about it, AFAIK.

[Myakot]

Armadingo
PvP is not about loot, it's about having fun by surpassing each other.
Guards don't do shit inside platoon base.
That's just wrong IMO. Yes you will get much better in a short time span, but where is the fun in that? :/.

[Armadingo]

PvP is not about loot, it's about having fun by surpassing each other.

Then I don't see why not have a little sparring arena, where we can surpass each other in the faction without significant repercussions.

Guards don't do shit inside platoon base.

Not everyone has access to a platoon base.

That's just wrong IMO. Yes you will get much better in a short time span, but where is the fun in that? :/.

The fun lies in not being farmed like potatoes in PvP.
I do agree it makes the learning curve of the game less exciting, but I think it's too rough.