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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #20 on: December 08, 2014, 11:30:11 AM »

nao, just trust me when I say that you misunderstood the changelog, which I blame on the language barrier and the fact that changelogs are just keywords and not paragraphs for every single change.
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #21 on: December 08, 2014, 11:36:22 AM »

Did i ever left you the feeling my post were devoid of explanation ? I doubt so.

Unless Cirn0 didn't explained it well, that trait means that you could only reload one ammo at a time on the weapon that have the trait like the remington. Only reloading one ammo at a time means that you can't do anymore the two thing i mentioned in the paragraph you quoted.

Of course it is possible that Cirn0 explained it wrong considering his last sentence about not being fully awake, hence my initial question at the beginning of my post.

Anyway, if you think you still can do the two other things or if my understanding of the issue is wrong, or not strictly accurate, feel free to enlight me.

But a message which doesn't bring up any fact, explanation or giving a new light feel meaning, especially if non diplomatic like the earlier post from anonymous.

Anyway, i just wondered if it was actually a nerf and asked for more details. There wasn't any base for flame war.

Although a consctructive answer from anyone would be awesome. I hope it is still possible, with the current low population.

yes this is cooorect i agree entirely that you shoudlnt be able to reload into ramington one bullet at a time because it does not let you do the two things that you said because the two things are important i mean we have two eyes right and if we only had one we would'not have depth perplexion which is a word i learned in collage for being able to see two things at once

anyway while i am enlight by this post i feel that the developers should be forcusing on more important things such as the ability to change the race of our characters to be black because i dont know about you but as a proud man of color i feel that it is discriminationatory to play as a white person and i'm glad that you agree with me in this ebcause i thought i was alone but i'm glad you are in agreement that remingtins and white people are both equally a problem in this fonline game
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #22 on: December 08, 2014, 12:19:51 PM »

nao, just trust me when I say that you misunderstood the changelog, which I blame on the language barrier and the fact that changelogs are just keywords and not paragraphs for every single change.

What would be the proper explanation then ?
Anyway, i don't point finger on anyone. Just asking something.
There is nothing wrong in saying something was nerfed and asking for more clarification.
« Last Edit: December 08, 2014, 12:24:42 PM by naossano »
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #23 on: December 08, 2014, 02:34:45 PM »

Tweaks:
-Added Single Loading weapon trait ( Loads 1 ammo at a time )
 > Given to revolvers that are non-speed loaders and Remington
This is the problem. The act of loading one round at a time doesn't have anything to do at all with the maximum magazine size. These are 2 completely unrelated things.

If you look at it logically, and by that I mean "logically" as in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic then making a statement on reloading should not be confused with max amgazine size. So I guess what you did was thinking about the pipe rifle and simply connecting 2 things that have nothing to do with each other and that complicated it cause you kept thinking the wrong thing and noone pointed it out. Thus, everyone was arguing from a different basis and it was bound to lead to misunderstanding.
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #24 on: December 08, 2014, 06:44:00 PM »

aayyyy this update was on my birthday :P
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 12:03:12 AM »

happy birthday
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2014, 04:38:22 AM »

Once again, if someone has said at least once.
"It doesn't work like that. In fact, what the feature does is not what is written on the changelog, but what i will say on these next two and three sentence".

We would have moved forward.

Saying, "you are wrong" or "you are moron", 'you didn't understand" doesn't answer anything. The question remains open, no matter how many unrelated things are said or how many unrelated links are posted. It only show the lack of maturity/credibility/relevance of those who "answer" if you can call it answers.

On the actual topic, you say i don't use logic, but when you say that you can only reload one bullet at a time, it is like you have one bullet in the magazine. Maybe the first time, you have more bullet, but Once you emptied your magazine, everytime you want to shoot, you have to reload a bullet, just like the pipe rifle, at least, according to the changelog line. Maybe some different meaning was intended, but it is not lacking logic to see it that way. Anyway, nothing was stated to point things in another direction.
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2014, 05:08:39 AM »

I'm actually quite surprised that nobody got what nao was saying o_0.
Unfortunatelly I'm currently unable to play FO and test if you are right about revolver turning into pipe rifle after emptying its mag.
But you are also wrong, you don't "lose" anything from that. There are speed-load revolvers out there, that are basically the same weapon. You want 6-bullet reload? There they are.
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2014, 06:10:46 AM »

Most of the people have the problem with the logic, there's no surprise.

Changelog says:
 -Added Single Loading weapon trait ( Loads 1 ammo at a time )
 > Given to revolvers that are non-speed loaders and Remington

I do not see any word about changing the clip size in here.

So your question was:
Doesn't that means the same as having one bullet in the magazine ?
I mean, if you could only load one ammo at a time, it means the same as if you had one bullet. (like pipe rifle)

So you're implying some kind of comparison which is not obvious to guess.
If the question will be "Did you change the clip size to 1?" the answer is obviously not.
And it's like 1 minute to check in-game if you're really interested, before starting complaining and writing messages which clearly takes more than 1 minute.

And then I asked you:
Can you explain me exactly, which only possibility you have now and why you can't do all you stated?

Which you didn't bother to answer, so nobody couldn't point out what exactly you don't understand because how the hell anyone knows it.

If you want to get answer, ask correct question. Instead you are went imaging stuff snd complaining about it, not relying on any facts.
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2014, 08:41:00 PM »

logic here , logic there , we arent coders , whut we wuuunt is a big ol good blood sausage  xD plus fuck revolvers and co. go with rocketlaunchers  , meh meh cirn0 why cant i have rocketlauncher speedload :p , and other stuff , the bigger the guns the greater the BLOOD SAUSAGE ...
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2014, 11:10:41 AM »

Are you still playing ? Didn't seen your law-rifle since weeks.

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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2014, 02:01:02 PM »

Are you still playing ? Didn't seen your law-rifle since weeks.

went back to the family thoe

Ok then. I might face you on the battlefield some day.
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Re: 06.12.2014 Changelog
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2014, 10:46:34 PM »

update is cool ive seen already someone using remington and recognized suprisingly that he can use reload while working , he just said cool :D
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