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Game improvements => Bug reports => Topic started by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 08:45:38 AM

Title: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 08:45:38 AM
The Rat, quite notoriously known (and self proclaimed) to be a rat for the lawyers, managed to sneakily tag me while i was in dialogue with the heart assignment granter, from there he brought a squad of Lawyers to the assignment location on the map, and managed to murder 2 unsuspecting members.

I applaud him for his creativity, but recommend a fix of sorts.

Perhaps a confirmation message for accepting people who tag you? So at least they can't sneak in while you aren't looking hehe.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Klot on September 26, 2014, 08:53:57 AM
Be more careful and untag the guy.
(hold alt and klick the char you want to untag)
It's no bug and if it is an exploit at all, he is exploiting your unawareness.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 08:58:22 AM
Be more careful and untag the guy.
(hold alt and klick the char you want to untag)
It's no bug and if it is an exploit at all, he is exploiting your unawareness.

You sure about that? You must have missed the part where he tagged me during dialogue, he was also in a position in which it is difficult to even see the tiny follow dot.

But if you say it's legit, lol, I'm off to troll some new players on assignments for the insult to mah famileh!
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 09:07:36 AM
Also im supposed to alt click him while clicking accept mission with him in the room.

That's like a 50% chance he will tag no matter how "aware" I am, so your logic is flawed.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: 3.14 on September 26, 2014, 09:35:57 AM
It's no bug and if it is an exploit at all, he is exploiting your unawareness.

If you need to make an alt in an enemy faction to do something that benefits your own faction then it is an exploit, especially if part of doing that something depends on flaws of the user interface.  It would be hard to find a better definition of an exploit.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: baskila on September 26, 2014, 09:40:05 AM
It's no bug and if it is an exploit at all, he is exploiting your unawareness.

If you need to make an alt in an enemy faction to do something that benefits your own faction then it is an exploit, especially if part of doing that something depends on flaws of the user interface.  It would be hard to find a better definition of an exploit.
He protects this exploit because he is the rat or one of his friends.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Klot on September 26, 2014, 09:49:18 AM
The alting can maybe seen as exploit, ill give you that.
But it stands seperate from the ablility to use your godgiven senses.
Devs put in the untag option for removing unwanted guests.

Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 09:54:29 AM
The alting can maybe seen as exploit, ill give you that.
But it stands seperate from the ablility to use your godgiven senses.
Devs put in the untag option for removing unwanted guests.

But clicking 2 buttons at the same time is impossible, soo, there is a gap for it to happen on chance anyway, despite your idea of awareness.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Perteks on September 26, 2014, 10:22:59 AM
Solution: change the taker
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 10:35:49 AM
LoL he's still at it, under different alts, sneaking in just as i click.

I hate to be a dick about it, but he did shoot his own faction too.

EDIT; Nevermind, they seem to have moved on to actual ZC, which if they had the numbers for, why are they trolling our assignments lol....
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: hell on September 26, 2014, 12:17:52 PM
Make alt with similiar name take assignement and then log off :D.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Myakot on September 26, 2014, 12:19:57 PM
I applaud him for his creativity, but recommend a fix of sorts.

That was the very first thing our team had done on this server xD. But we feared that this'd be considered an exploit and forgot about that.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 26, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
I applaud him for his creativity, but recommend a fix of sorts.

That was the very first thing our team had done on this server xD. But we feared that this'd be considered an exploit and forgot about that.

LoL and here I was thinking he was being creative >.<
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Myakot on September 26, 2014, 12:29:50 PM
It was a common thing on TLA ;D.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Aco on September 27, 2014, 12:16:27 AM
You guys are the family, A gang of drug dealers, bad ass's, Mafia, etc. And you complain about exploit when feds break open ur door and kill u when ur doing a drug transaction ? This is outragous!

It's obvious there will be a rat that sneaks in and busts u guys! You guys gotta watch out for people wearing a wire. What else do you expect?

Ok sure its maybe against the rules. But it was stricky for role-play perposes You guys gonna cry about it ?

(http://i60.tinypic.com/111km79.jpg)

Also note: The law gave them their loot back. End of story.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Myakot on September 27, 2014, 12:18:39 AM
'Dis is awesome, especially those puns! ;D
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: 3.14 on September 27, 2014, 01:23:48 AM
Quote
Also note: The law gave them their loot back. End of story.
Lies. I ain't got nuffin' back :P
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Aco on September 27, 2014, 02:16:09 AM
Serio? Talk to your friend IronMaiden, I gave him back all the loot found on the bodies, And told him to give them back to his friend.

Think I can even get a log message saying it.
Talk to IronMaiden about it and if he say its not true ill post log here.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 27, 2014, 03:06:36 AM
Ironmaiden complained sooooo much about that.

Ironmaiden, the same guy who goes in robes to ZC, complained for about 20 minutes about his metal armor...

And then didn't even give Sub her gear back.. This guy.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Aco on September 27, 2014, 10:01:04 PM
I scienced his metal armor to carry the rest, But I gave him a Combat support armor mk2 instead.
edit: his metal was mk1 btw
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Myakot on September 27, 2014, 10:24:29 PM
Just give me your location.. Which loot do you want as a compensation? =/
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Doobee on September 28, 2014, 03:54:54 AM
Killing your faction mates is bannable offense, this doesnt seem like anything else to me.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Aco on September 28, 2014, 06:05:29 AM
Sure, Ban the lvl 1 char. w/e
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 28, 2014, 06:33:28 AM
I was never asking for bans or was ever really mad, if you look at my OP and, you saw personally how I reacted, so you must know I don't really care that much and actually found it amusing at first,

But

It's not cool that it can be done so "sneakily" without a choice from the other player involved.

All I'm asking for is a confirmation message when someone tags you, that doesn't mean you guys still can't do this, but more that it will be the one trick pony that it is, not some coin-flip whether every assignment you take will be trolled.

Surely that is reasonable.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: PorkchopExpress on September 28, 2014, 06:38:31 AM
Would be nice if they would add, after you choose mission, a dialogue which gives you choice who to take/kick  before starting the chosen mission.Something like caravans in FO2.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: mAdman on September 28, 2014, 06:58:57 AM
Would be nice if they would add, after you choose mission, a dialogue which gives you choice who to take/kick  before starting the chosen mission.Something like caravans in FO2.

Yes that would also do perfectly, like a roster that appears that you can remove people from before confirming.
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: 3.14 on September 28, 2014, 07:48:08 AM
Maybe assignment location could be given only to tagged squad members?
Title: Re: Sneaky rat found assignment exploit
Post by: Deathproof on September 28, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
If you make alts this is what you can do to abuse
1. Baserape - lead enemy team inside faction hq with alt
2.Assigment trolling - as this topic said
3. ZC score fix by shooting alts of the 3rd team and than defib em
4. Be an annoyance on ZC or spying for location

Probably even more..... but its players behavior problem, not game mechanic one.