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Community section => Events & Politics => Topic started by: baskila on September 12, 2014, 07:57:30 AM
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
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family faction is for hardcore gamers only since you haven't any badass godfather leader who can organise you
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Making the Family competitive would be welcome, not sure how you would achieve it though.
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BBoys will soon take that "shit faction" title from you ;D. We're already extremely low in numbers compared to V-tech and Lawyers, sucks.
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Yeah this week i saw 4 fully organized over 10 man squads in lawyers.
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BBoys will soon take that "shit faction" title from you ;D. We're already extremely low in numbers compared to V-tech and Lawyers, sucks.
You guys still seem to be able to swarm us at times, though we where horribly underequiped in the last disastrous cap attempt today.
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from what I saw family is still able to show up in pvp battle, and I guess something will be done about it.
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BBoys will soon take that "shit faction" title from you ;D. We're already extremely low in numbers compared to V-tech and Lawyers, sucks.
You guys still seem to be able to swarm us at times, though we where horribly underequiped in the last disastrous cap attempt today.
Half of us were running in mantles, we lost almost everything while fighting lawyers ;D. Was fun though.
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Don't count us out just yet! I was part of a few skirmishes just the other night and we destroyed the v-tec forces dispatched to deal with us 3 TIMES
we were only in a group of between 10 and 15 but due to tactics and troop placement we crushed our foes before they even entered the ZC.
Oh and our escapes were amazing imo.
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family stronk
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15 players are really enough for zonecontrol. Its about organization.
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Yes, I hope you will realize that a small team equipped with the right stuff and using the right strategy can be very efficient and that beyond certain numbers, big groups become quite inefficient and hard to move.
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Don't count us out just yet! I was part of a few skirmishes just the other night and we destroyed the v-tec forces dispatched to deal with us 3 TIMES
we were only in a group of between 10 and 15 but due to tactics and troop placement we crushed our foes before they even entered the ZC.
Oh and our escapes were amazing imo.
Right Jimmy, We aren't weak by any means! The other day, we destroyed each faction multiple times. We have intellect and strategy on our side! -They wont know what hit 'em!
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Yeah! You just wait till I get some 20 more levels, some good guns, armor... stims... learn the maps... learn how to pvp... and.. and... You just wait! >:(
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Rumor has it the Family has also unlocked the secret of colored text, striking fear into the hearts of their bewildered enemies
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I got ganked by what I assume was 25 Brahmin boys, I don't want to hear it -_-
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I got ganked by what I assume was 25 Brahmin boys, I don't want to hear it -_-
We were 17 and that was the best we could gather, wasting like an hour on it ;)
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it does not matter how many men you have,what guns you use, or the type of armor its about how you use them as it only takes one man to change the course of history.
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Bullshit, massive zerg can win w/o any coordination. Enemies will run out of bullets.
But pretty much yeah, if you have a favourite weapon, you should be pretty used to it by now with all the ZC fun going on. That experience should make you damn good. (Like knowing what you excel at or knowing when to fall back. Saw tons of players reloading their remington in the first days in the clear sight.. Was fun killing them with their -150AP.)
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I'm still falling prey to poor use of tactics on my part :P
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I'm still falling prey to poor use of tactics on my part :P
Haha, I do too. Need to play more ><.
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We pulled off an amazing operation the brothers will continue to hit the enemy where it hurts using our brains and tactics rather that our sheer numbers.
But seriously though it was a bug still a fantastic adventure none the less, one that I don't think V-Tec will forget anytime soon. 8)
http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=1413.msg9452#msg9452
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I was the first to inform the Vault of your intrusion, though i thought it was BB not family :P stupid colours.
Weirdly every time i died i kept all my gear on respawn, part of the bug?
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I was the first to inform the Vault of your intrusion, though i thought it was BB not family :P stupid colours.
Weirdly every time i died i kept all my gear on respawn, part of the bug?
Not part of the bug apparently it is by design, I didn't try myself but apparently we were unable to loot you guys. You should go back and tell them it was the family 8)
V-Tec did quickly retaliate by camping our gates but I doubt the satisfaction was any where near gaining access to an enemy base with a death squad :p
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I was the first to inform the Vault of your intrusion, though i thought it was BB not family :P stupid colours.
Weirdly every time i died i kept all my gear on respawn, part of the bug?
Not part of the bug apparently it is by design, I didn't try myself but apparently we were unable to loot you guys. You should go back and tell them it was the family 8)
V-Tec did quickly retaliate by camping our gates but I doubt the satisfaction was any where near gaining access to an enemy base with a death squad :p
Ah well :P was fun to say the least.
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Any point in playing family?....Well it turns out were not the smallest faction by a fraction
http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=1320.0
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So, where are the doomsayers saying Family is DOOMED and etc? Because our combination guerilla-tactics and our ZC tactics have been winning us battles and accumulating gear. Under the tactics of Blasma Khan we have been outwitting our feeble-minded foes. With my shotgun ours foes are thrown away from our clay.
Many noobs are training hard under Apollo Creed's watchful eye, pumping iron and doing assigs to the sound of "Eye of the Tiger". Veteran donations and advice ensure their continued sucess as guns and ammo flow to their hands. More dead vtecs, lawyers and BBs have dying to our hands and having their obviously stolen proprierty given to better, more rightful owners. Our elite members become better and stronger every day. Some of our members are so elite that I hear two of them are capable of overcoming ten times their numbers in vtec!
Once the current batch of noobs is molded into members of the elite Family fighting forces, we will have, according to my calculations, 20+ new elite fighters fit for ZC. I also believe that according to my sources, The Family will gain some strong reinforcements soon.
If current growth rate continues, Family will have around 30 or 40 elite fighters by the end of the month.
We accept surrender declarations bellow the dotted line. Those who surrender and defect will be allowed to keep their gear.
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Get told and surrender...bitches XD
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So, where are the doomsayers saying Family is DOOMED and etc? Because our combination guerilla-tactics and our ZC tactics have been winning us battles and accumulating gear. Under the tactics of Blasma Khan we have been outwitting our feeble-minded foes. With my shotgun ours foes are thrown away from our clay.
Many noobs are training hard under Apollo Creed's watchful eye, pumping iron and doing assigs to the sound of "Eye of the Tiger". Veteran donations and advice ensure their continued sucess as guns and ammo flow to their hands. More dead vtecs, lawyers and BBs have dying to our hands and having their obviously stolen proprierty given to better, more rightful owners. Our elite members become better and stronger every day. Some of our members are so elite that I hear two of them are capable of overcoming ten times their numbers in vtec!
Once the current batch of noobs is molded into members of the elite Family fighting forces, we will have, according to my calculations, 20+ new elite fighters fit for ZC. I also believe that according to my sources, The Family will gain some strong reinforcements soon.
If current growth rate continues, Family will have around 30 or 40 elite fighters by the end of the month.
We accept surrender declarations bellow the dotted line. Those who surrender and defect will be allowed to keep their gear.
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LOL :D
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So, where are the doomsayers saying Family is DOOMED and etc? Because our combination guerilla-tactics and our ZC tactics have been winning us battles and accumulating gear. Under the tactics of Blasma Khan we have been outwitting our feeble-minded foes. With my shotgun ours foes are thrown away from our clay.
Many noobs are training hard under Apollo Creed's watchful eye, pumping iron and doing assigs to the sound of "Eye of the Tiger". Veteran donations and advice ensure their continued sucess as guns and ammo flow to their hands. More dead vtecs, lawyers and BBs have dying to our hands and having their obviously stolen proprierty given to better, more rightful owners. Our elite members become better and stronger every day. Some of our members are so elite that I hear two of them are capable of overcoming ten times their numbers in vtec!
Once the current batch of noobs is molded into members of the elite Family fighting forces, we will have, according to my calculations, 20+ new elite fighters fit for ZC. I also believe that according to my sources, The Family will gain some strong reinforcements soon.
If current growth rate continues, Family will have around 30 or 40 elite fighters by the end of the month.
We accept surrender declarations bellow the dotted line. Those who surrender and defect will be allowed to keep their gear.
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Bets post that I have read in a while.
Well said my friend, well said.
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So, where are the doomsayers saying Family is DOOMED and etc? Because our combination guerilla-tactics and our ZC tactics have been winning us battles and accumulating gear. Under the tactics of Blasma Khan we have been outwitting our feeble-minded foes. With my shotgun ours foes are thrown away from our clay.
Many noobs are training hard under Apollo Creed's watchful eye, pumping iron and doing assigs to the sound of "Eye of the Tiger". Veteran donations and advice ensure their continued sucess as guns and ammo flow to their hands. More dead vtecs, lawyers and BBs have dying to our hands and having their obviously stolen proprierty given to better, more rightful owners. Our elite members become better and stronger every day. Some of our members are so elite that I hear two of them are capable of overcoming ten times their numbers in vtec!
Once the current batch of noobs is molded into members of the elite Family fighting forces, we will have, according to my calculations, 20+ new elite fighters fit for ZC. I also believe that according to my sources, The Family will gain some strong reinforcements soon.
If current growth rate continues, Family will have around 30 or 40 elite fighters by the end of the month.
We accept surrender declarations bellow the dotted line. Those who surrender and defect will be allowed to keep their gear.
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Couldn't have stated it better myself.
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nice imagination. seems in childhood parents read you many books :o
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Actually, some family members ganked me at our gates last night >:(
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So, where are the doomsayers saying Family is DOOMED and etc? Because our combination guerilla-tactics and our ZC tactics have been winning us battles and accumulating gear. Under the tactics of Blasma Khan we have been outwitting our feeble-minded foes. With my shotgun ours foes are thrown away from our clay.
Many noobs are training hard under Apollo Creed's watchful eye, pumping iron and doing assigs to the sound of "Eye of the Tiger". Veteran donations and advice ensure their continued sucess as guns and ammo flow to their hands. More dead vtecs, lawyers and BBs have dying to our hands and having their obviously stolen proprierty given to better, more rightful owners. Our elite members become better and stronger every day. Some of our members are so elite that I hear two of them are capable of overcoming ten times their numbers in vtec!
Once the current batch of noobs is molded into members of the elite Family fighting forces, we will have, according to my calculations, 20+ new elite fighters fit for ZC. I also believe that according to my sources, The Family will gain some strong reinforcements soon.
If current growth rate continues, Family will have around 30 or 40 elite fighters by the end of the month.
We accept surrender declarations bellow the dotted line. Those who surrender and defect will be allowed to keep their gear.
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Ok, ok, dont worry about the thing.I send u my two angry birds lvl 99 to lead u in PvP.
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
1) I cannot help you with this
2) Lawyers do not have a traveling merchant at all, Not even a bugged one, You just don't have as many people complaining about it in the ~help function.
3) Family has THE BEST looting locations because of where its gate is, Alot of people just spawn at your gate to loot, but stick around a moment to get a few pks or hide from your guards.
4) Less players means you can get more caps from the junk shop
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBpYgpF1bqQ
With this kind of theme song, what else does anyone need ?
The Family is alive and painting the streets in red.
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I switched to Family from BB, and while it is more rewarding, it honestly seems like most of the families players are just..kinda...cowardly. Last night for instance, I noticed BB and lawyers took over the entire map. I tried to organize a ZC raid and you know what I got? An argument about how ZC doesn't do anything for them personally. Family members spent a good amount of time telling me that they didn't want to do ZC because they were scared of losing gear and time/it doesn't benefit them in the least, AFTER I OFFERED FREE GUNS AND AMMO.
Until the rest of the family stops jerking it in the corner doing assignments we're never going to be formidable.
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Maybe you've just asked in a wrong time.
I've been couple of times ZC-ing with like 15-20 of our members, all willing to take the whole town zone by zone (and almost did that). Also almost everyday there is a raid in robes and ak's for the fun of it where even the newest members join in who don't own anything, either raid on some gates or in general stroll trough the town to kill folks. Also everytime some enemy is at the gate and someone tells it on faction chat couple of people gather to clean up the situation. For me playing in the family after trying out all the factions has been the most fun and rewarding for now.
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Family are rather scary when they come out to fight, you know they are more likely to know what they are doing compared to the undisciplined swarms of Vtec and Lawyers.
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(http://uppix.com/f-87686541cfb3b00179ae6.jpg) (http://uppix.com/)
(http://uppix.com/f-5545541cfca700179aec.jpg) (http://uppix.com/)
(http://uppix.com/f-7676541cfc9500179aeb.jpg) (http://uppix.com/)
Along with various benefits of course.
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Well said everyone. Like I stated before, the family players are much more willing to follow a (good) leader, where as the other factions seem to rebel against one another. With the proper organization and tactics of an experienced leader, we usually come out victorious. (Unless swarmed like bees on a honeycomb)
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(Unless swarmed like bees on a honeycomb)
Almost always ;)
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Why play Family when you can be part of the V-Tech horde? Is it not better to hide behind a swarm of unarmed bluesuits as you pick off enemies from afar? :P
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(Unless swarmed like bees on a honeycomb)
Almost always ;)
How the average Family ZC looks like:
Family vs Brahmin Boys:
(http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21100000/Black-Hawk-Down-johnny-strong-21145875-853-480.jpg)
Family vs Vtecs
(http://cjlockett.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/world_war_z-580x360.jpg)
Family vs Lawyers
(http://cjlockett.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/black-hawk-down.png)
Hard odds, but we will prevail!
(we would be prevailing more if we had more people FIGHTING instead of carebearing inside base!)
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(Unless swarmed like bees on a honeycomb)
Almost always ;)
How the average Family ZC looks like:
Family vs Brahmin Boys:
pictures
Family vs Vtecs
pictures
Family vs Lawyers
pictures
Hard odds, but we will prevail!
(we would be prevailing more if we had more people FIGHTING instead of carebearing inside base!)
Meanwhile in the Family base:
(http://38.media.tumblr.com/772cb49ba9db37cfd6ad7baee1c5b84e/tumblr_mzms5ocYRR1s2u3beo4_500.gif)
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Hahaha ;D
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How the average grouping for Family ZC looks like
(http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/attachments/news/153363d1407851632-mahindra-final-stages-testing-390cc-mojo-still-waiting.jpg)
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Ok the topic just became very awesome.
We are always defending against the hordes of degenerates, mutants and worse.
But in the Don's name we will prevail !
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I'd liek to agree that tactics overpower numbers, but it can take us an hour sometimes to get together 10 people, and it's always the same ten people. Me, baskilla, Stuntman, Dimitri, Stribe, Blasma, BRS, Shin, Iron Maiden etc. So we always have some good plans. But nothing trumps 15 lawyers with nadespam, plan or not.
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Hey, putting up a good fight vs a prevailing group is good enough, no? I doubt that any other faction gets even half of the fun you're getting.
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Hey, putting up a good fight vs a prevailing group is good enough, no? I doubt that any other faction gets even half of the fun you're getting.
Yeah actually, you're right. In the Family we're all pretty close, bro and sis as some say, and it is really fun. But there still needs to be something that gets smaller factions on a similar playing field to others. Thinking about this now, this really does fit the description of the family. The family's backstory is that they used to own everything but now they lost it due to the lawyers if I am correct, and I guess it works really well with the lore... but I know for a fact that wasn't intentional.
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I'd liek to agree that tactics overpower numbers, but it can take us an hour sometimes to get together 10 people, and it's always the same ten people. Me, baskilla, Stuntman, Dimitri, Stribe, Blasma, BRS, Shin, Iron Maiden etc. So we always have some good plans. But nothing trumps 15 lawyers with nadespam, plan or not.
You forgot about me Ern, - Reported :P Since we are always outnumbered it always seems to be a huge victory to actually win Any ZC. Still, I wouldn't change to other fraction. We all know each other, help the new players etc. It's cool. Trust me - one day we'll conquer the wasteland ;)
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You dont need that many players. For example - even with 10 players you can totaly clean teamfight when vtech, lawyers and bb are fighting. Just do it right.
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you can dual log or something
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You dont need that many players. For example - even with 10 players you can totaly clean teamfight when vtech, lawyers and bb are fighting. Just do it right.
Depending on the hour. At day we're swarmed and can only win with enough BGs, at night we can win if people follow the leader and don't do something stupid.
Getting into active warzones is also best handled with care, due to grid campers and grenade launchers.
Even then, our enemies often swarm us. Yesterday we totally pwned a bunch of Lawyers and V-Tecs in Global Electronics, but some V-tec fag hid and we lost the capture due to that, then we had to flee due to lawyer sneak snipers harassing us.
I do have the feeling we're getting better lately, seeing more victory and less defeat lately.
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Like I said, patience. We are already strong enough to rein supreme at night, and eventually we will be strong enough to conquer the day as well!
Stay strong Family! They wont know what hit 'em!
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How the average grouping for Family ZC looks like
(http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/attachments/news/153363d1407851632-mahindra-final-stages-testing-390cc-mojo-still-waiting.jpg)
I blame people who don't organize their room right, so they have two containers full of shit instead of buying more containers to make things better organized. As it is I have four containers in room - One for weapons, one for ammo, one for armor/drugs/mission designated quick gear and one for junk, relics, crafting materials and other misc. Been thinking about putting four new ones, one for crafting materials, one for drugs, one for relics and the other for misc to sell to junk trader.
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If you feel like you're taking too long stashing, get a container whose single porpouse is to fast dump post-battle/core run loot onto it, no organization. You can organize that stuff in other containers later (say, between assignments)
Here's my containers:
Weapons
Ammo
Drugs & Food
Armor, money & Stealthboys
Sellable Junk
Crafting Materials (broken armor, scopes, springs, junks, wood, etc)
Fast loot dump box (thrown stuff fast here, organize later)
Donations box (stash all the shit I want to donate to noobs here)
Think I'm gonna get a relics box later.
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Have you considered allying yourself with Brahmin Boys ?
Right now, things are too unbalanced with two big groups and two small groups.
If the two small groups play together, we might have three big groups and more challenges.
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Family has the best hunters, so best faction.
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Family has the best hunters, so best faction.
So apparently having 2-5 guys camp Vtec gate only to kill newbies makes you the best faction.
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Family has the best hunters, so best faction.
So apparently having 2-5 guys camp Vtec gate only to kill newbies makes you the best faction.
Well yeah only newbies tell that we killed them the rest are too ashamed to speak.
But no fending off double of our numbers feels great, also ambushing and killing the response is even better. But the best is to see the vtecs walk around in groups of 10, scared to die.
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As much enjoyable as Family turn around and starting to run or die in 5-10 seconds when they see us.
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As much enjoyable as Family turn around and starting to run or die in 5-10 seconds when they see us.
No I can clearly piss the furthest look;
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Cool, bro, you're real dude. Now start coming to zone controls
(instead of competing how far can you piss)
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Does everything have to a competition jesus fk, I think you missed the joke of my post (that the thread is devolving into a pissing contest fast).
But you obviously are much better than I so, go on, enjoy you keyboard war, lol.
And FYI last time I was online I ZCd with a team for a couple of hours before vtech finally responded with their usual overkill swarm and broke our 10 man (at that stage we might have even been less, like 7 maybe) squads spirit beyond re composition for the night. So nyeh. I do participate :P
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As much enjoyable as Family turn around and starting to run or die in 5-10 seconds when they see us.
Because we retreat when outnumbered 4 times our numbers, we use tactics.
On the other hand you run when we are equal in numbers because .... cowards ?
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LoL and the peeing contest begins again >.<
I'll just step out of the way.
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Because we retreat when outnumbered 4 times our numbers, we use tactics.
On the other hand you run when we are equal in numbers because .... cowards ?
20 mins ago you've seen 4 of us and started to run with 4. So... yeah, you can continue killing blue suites 4 against 1 and thinking that you're tactical hunter.
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Because we retreat when outnumbered 4 times our numbers, we use tactics.
On the other hand you run when we are equal in numbers because .... cowards ?
20 mins ago you've seen 4 of us and started to run with 4. So... yeah, you can continue killing blue suites 4 against 1 and thinking that you're tactical hunter.
I was alone there against 4 of you but credit me more I like it.
Also staged a massacre at your gate was fun.
Also paragon I really like you because unlike other vtecs you can come with response force before we fall asleep.
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Family has the best hunters, so best faction.
This is going to be a great asset soon, for reasons I've explained in our talks.
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Imagine if you will, a world without the family. Scary no?
Welcome to.
The Twilight Fallout zone.
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Imagine if you will, a world without the family. Scary no?
Welcome to, the Twilight Fallout zone.
All i can imagine without family is a sea of unchecked bluesuits raping the core for loot.
We really do make the core a better place.
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Imagine if you will, a world without the family. Scary no?
Welcome to, the Twilight Fallout zone.
All i can imagine without family is a sea of unchecked bluesuits raping the core for loot.
We really do make the core a better place.
Dat scary vision of the future. :(
This will totally break my immershun and make it look like a korean mmorpg
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Rumour says, that family managed to gather equal numbers in last days (15+), but part of them who proclaim themselves "hunters", has been unable to stand side by side with brothers in ZC, instead they have been searching for newbies in nearby zones, while those trustworthy stood against vtec. Result is obvious, but shame fall on the heads of corrupted family members, who rendered themselves parasites in matter of game aswell as in matter of own faction morale. Good job everybody else.
Glory to few who fought in combat against vtec, we will drop a flower on your grave.
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Rumour says, that family managed to gather equal numbers in last days (15+), but part of them who proclaim themselves "hunters", has been unable to stand side by side with brothers in ZC, instead they have been searching for newbies in nearby zones, while those trustworthy stood against vtec. Result is obvious, but shame fall on the heads of corrupted family members, who rendered themselves parasites in matter of game aswell as in matter of own faction morale. Good job everybody else.
Glory to few who fought in combat against vtec, we will drop a flower on your grave.
Interesting stuff.
Anytime I'm online its always the same few people that want to zc "hunters" included, when did this happen?
Did we get more players? :D
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Rumour says, that family managed to gather equal numbers in last days (15+), but part of them who proclaim themselves "hunters", has been unable to stand side by side with brothers in ZC, instead they have been searching for newbies in nearby zones, while those trustworthy stood against vtec. Result is obvious, but shame fall on the heads of corrupted family members, who rendered themselves parasites in matter of game aswell as in matter of own faction morale. Good job everybody else.
Glory to few who fought in combat against vtec, we will drop a flower on your grave.
If you talk about the ''whorehouse capture operation'' then no we were 9 at the start when 5 of the new mostly pve members wanted to cap the whorehouse out of the blue, so we let you do it. Then 1 of the elite hunters came to help you because you were just 5 and according to intel from him the moment you saw the vtecs numbers you started to run away.
And at no point we were 15+, last time that I saw so many Family members together was a very long time ago.
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"but part of them who proclaim themselves "hunters", has been unable to stand side by side with brothers in ZC, instead they have been searching for newbies in nearby zones, while those trustworthy stood against vtec. Result is obvious, but shame fall on the heads of corrupted family members, who rendered themselves parasites in matter of game aswell as in matter of own faction morale. Good job everybody else."
If you think we are"parasites" for pvp-ing outside of zc your as ignorant as you sound, pvp can happen outside of zc. The server is meant for pvp everywhere not just zc. In many cases, we, hunters are willing to zc but have too few number so we wait for the losing team to fall back and most times we kill the cowards that turn and run a fitting end. Seeing as v-tec are so full of themselves when they fight us when we have to retreat from their superior numbers. We stand with our Brothers but Brothers are not those randoms that only pve and want to zc out of the blue. Today, for example, at poly me and a few other hunters lead a group (most of the names I've never seen before other than the pve-ers) we had a plan laid out and vt showed up the hunters stuck to the plan while the randoms rushed out to die.
The "hunters" are only active members of Family with the gull to go beyond the family gate we are few in number and always being harassed for pvp-ing outside of ZC (apparently we only kill Blue suits) but we have been successful in many encounters even tonight me and two other hunters killed fully armed V-tecs at ent and gate while chaos ensued i got word that vt faction chat was full of ridiculousness about there is 8 of us and 12 lawyers helping us really??? Vtards indeed you guys need to learn how to count must of never made it pass grade school, After crushing the vtec forces they caught on that we were only 3 and rushed us finally killing us on the fourth attempt with about 8 plus bringing us glory in death.
Greenthumb i have a quote for you and anyone else who thinks the hunters are bad for the server.
"Too many people have opinions on things they know nothing about. And the more ignorant they are the more opinions they have"
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I am really enjoying the v tech vs family skirmishes at the moment.
Redrum needs to stop running into squads of v techs. He died like 4 times yesterday.
Being honest though, family wiped my squad three times in one evening.
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I am really enjoying the v tech vs family skirmishes at the moment.
Redrum needs to stop running into squads of v techs. He died like 4 times yesterday.
Being honest though, family wiped my squad three times in one evening.
I've seen your squad in action, you're good fighters but I think you could do with a tiny bit more organisation.
Your followers seem to panic and scatter the moment they take some fire.
May I suggest having a dedicated leader if you don't already. It definitely helps to know when things go bad that all you have to do is stay close, stay frosty and they will lead you to safety or victory.
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It is cool that you manage to have fun with your hunting party, but it won't make you win ZC. Sure, you have high chances to lose, but if you don't try, you are 100% sure that you will lose.
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3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
I love how this thread started and where it went heh.
On topic - in general
Family is currently most noob friendly faction, members share, help,give advices and group to achieve something. Faction chat is never spammed with shit, just casual talking between everybody in faction or important info for the faction. No TK has happened as long as I remember, or if it did it never continued.
ZC is a problem same as to BB, lack of active organized numbers. This can be changed easily by grouping the two factions or trying to change mentality of players that loosing pvp is better than no pvp at all. Whats the point of sitting on your loot, when you can have some fun with it.
Personally every zc we lost has been fun to me, we tried, we sometimes kicked ass, but mostly our asses have been kicked. It doesn't matter, fun was involved, I play games for solely reason to have fun. Therefor we started ambushing zc groups, guerrilla attacking that retreating etc....new tactics to have fun with odds against us.
Blue suits killing - this is a strange thing to be honest, we do kill blue suits, but what I find out by observing zc's of other factions as sneaker, bunch of ppl who gear up and pvp in zc, go to scavenge in blue suit and therefor make a victim out of themselves. I know with certainty 4 Vtech bluesuits who have been killed by us regulary, when I'm alone I give them free pass in 80% coz I got nothing to gain out of it except free kill. I had a conversation with one bluesuit yesterday who repeatedly died and I asked him why doesn't he tell it on faction chat, are there any armed players in his base ? He told me there are but nobody listens to him because he is new. Its a shame really, because with this 4 faction system I expected people would defend their weakest members, only to be surprised how platoons hold each other by the hand and don't care about majority of faction.
I've been doing a santa run for last two evening, leaving armors + weapons around so scavengers can find them, I hope they ended up in right hands and that it will be used to fight with them, not to hoard them or use them solely for assignments.
On top of it all, I don't think any of this is a major problem and has big impact on the server, the drop of active players made Vtech-Family only active ppl on the server and therefor only option is to kill each other.
There has always been a repeated sentence in fo servers - wasteland is harsh. But lets be honest, phoenix isn't as harsh. I remember in beginning it was much harder to scavenge but therefor more rewarding when you manage. People dying would make them want to revenge, to become better and hunt down those who killed them. Currently whining is the method to stop killing.
Is there a point of playing a family - yes, as any other faction. We currently have good numbers in general, bad numbers for zc, but I would love to see all factions having more numbers around. Whats the point of having 30 "active" law players (which are our main enemy) if nobody ever logs in except for zc.....
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
Your kidding me right? I have yet to be killed by someone outside the Family, from my experience with them, there just a bunch of shoot on sight, gate camping riff raffs who don't speak any English.
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
Your kidding me right? I have yet to be killed by someone outside the Family, from my experience with them, there just a bunch of shoot on sight, gate camping riff raffs who don't speak any English.
That's not true! Most Family speak english all the time, with some russian and spanish ocasionally seen.
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
Your kidding me right? I have yet to be killed by someone outside the Family, from my experience with them, there just a bunch of shoot on sight, gate camping riff raffs who don't speak any English.
I was hunting near vtec gate in the last 30 mins and you know what happened? Me and my partner let 4 people go because they weren't worth shooting. Family has been getting better about raping random blues from my observation. On top of that I rarely ever see other languages in the faction chat, it's pretty much all coherent for an English speaker. As others have also said we give out items and equip our newbs and broke players more than any other faction. You just happen to be on the wrong end of a Kalashnikov most of the time, sorry.
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
Your kidding me right? I have yet to be killed by someone outside the Family, from my experience with them, there just a bunch of shoot on sight, gate camping riff raffs who don't speak any English.
I was hunting near vtec gate in the last 30 mins and you know what happened? Me and my partner let 4 people go because they weren't worth shooting. Family has been getting better about raping random blues from my observation. On top of that I rarely ever see other languages in the faction chat, it's pretty much all coherent for an English speaker. As others have also said we give out items and equip our newbs and broke players more than any other faction. You just happen to be on the wrong end of a Kalashnikov most of the time, sorry.
Wait, what?!
What is this decline?
The enemy is to be shot at all costs, bluesuit or not! No quarter! "Bluesuit" is just code-word for "disguised enemy pro-player"! Think of the frag rankings, man!
Where is Sabbarab? He would't have let this happen!
Looks like I'm going to have to get back to improve discipline. Just as well. I want a piece of that l33t Power Armor and bounties.
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Decline ?
If you played other Fonline servers, you would have noticed that this one is the most casual/noob friendly server.
By not killing bluesuits on sight, you help the dev ensure that many new player will be staying in AOP, cheering the level of fairness of the community.
If the bluesuit have a familiar name, that is another story, but i think we need to encourage the players to stay in game. (especially in Family/BBoys that need to double their numbers, unless they do the only thing that make sense and ally themselves)
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Yeah sure I will try to run bluesuit and hope noone shoots me ?
I think that I will be shot on sight or even out of sight and that will be a humiliating death.
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I think this question needs to be addressed. What is the point of staying in The Family.
1. They can't do any zone control effectively as whenever ZC message pops up that Family is taking a zone the nearest faction immediately goes there as they know The Family has no chance.
2. Game bugs seem to be priority for every other faction except Family. Family entrance merchant has been stuck since yesterday while merchants for other factions are being fixed. Even suggestions like selling all books with one click are considered for other faction but not Family.
3. Family gate is camped most of the time as PK's from other factions go there to have fun shooting n00bs as they know that Family won't send punishing force to retaliate. Because of that scavenging also takes a hit.
Please give a little love to The Family as they are great bunch of lads. If not for this reason do it for the sake of some balance at least.
Your kidding me right? I have yet to be killed by someone outside the Family, from my experience with them, there just a bunch of shoot on sight, gate camping riff raffs who don't speak any English.
Actually we're all really nice :) Even the family members that don't like each other still stay civil for the sake of an easier life.
Also have you ever spoken to a family member?
We're all English speaking,
I think I have seen 1 account of russian or polish being spoken in chat since launch.
Whats wrong with shooting on sight? In my experience if I don't shoot on sight I'm quickly shot dead. Trust me I have tried to talk to enemies in the core.
They don't seem bothered by anything else but killing us too.
Shoot or be shot, kill or be killed. That is my experience.
Props to count matthew for not giving up! He talks to us instead of just running by. I even gave him weapons.
Heres a tip. If you see family running around, and you are in blue and sure to be caught.
Use the shout option to make yourself known.
Declare you're unarmed and mean peace, Some of us will probably let you walk.
Ever seen a family member defib a vtec?
S'pretty heart warming.
Two screens, In one we shot him upon entering a room.
The other we stood and talked, He then fired at mscislaw. So I killed him again.
He was quickly defibbed and asked to move along.
(Edit)After thinking about it and being told its impossible, it probably wasn't a defib.
if it was he would have most likely been defibbed the first time he was killed.
So just FA, he wasn't dead the second time :P
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Ever seen a family member defib a vtec?
S'pretty heart warming.
Two screens, In one we shot him upon entering a room.
The other we stood and talked, He then fired at mscislaw. So I killed him again.
He was quickly defibbed and asked to move along.
that's impossible you can't defib a person from another faction.
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Made an edit. ^^^
Thanks S.T.A.L.K.E.R I didn't know that and would have gone on thinking he was defibbed until I tried it for myself lol.
S.T.A.L.K.E.R, correcting the bullshit since launch.
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My experience with other BrahminBoys: everybody speaks russian.
The Lawyers: they never see me or just ignore me.
V-Tec: either they talk and are friendly (even seen some join the brahmin boys) or camp at the BrahminBoy gate.
The Family: been killed while looting, been taunted, been spied on, been rekt by a group of at least 6 members camping at the BrahminBoy gate and finally been killed after someone spawned behind me. The only good thing that has ever happened to me involving the Family was with the first character I made (I was part of the Family), someone dropped me an M1C with some ammo.
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So basically you're complaining about being killed?
Everybody goes through what you just described in some way at some time.
I have experienced everything on your list apart from the friendliness directed towards you.
From day one Brahmin Boys have been hostile and never above any of the acts the family has performed.
Same goes for other factions.
I am personally yet to see ANY enemy (with a weapon) stop to have a chit chat.
You know what they do? shoot on sight.
They always have and most likely always will.
At start I kept going into the core with the sole purpose of finding an enemy that did not fight or shoot on sight. I tried it in bluesuite, I tried it in armor.
With weapons, without weapons. Stimpaks or defibs in hand.
WALKING up to them and saying "hello" or "peace" Or even just a plain old "Don't Shoot"
I never found one that didnt kill me, but complaining about being killed by the enemy?
How could I expect anything more?
If you were taunted, I'm pretty sure it was in English so I don't know where you're getting that we don't speak English from.
If its as you say, then consider yourself lucky that you're so privileged to not be killed by Lawyers and V-Tec.
Family have never had such luxury.
What is your name in-game?
I wont shoot if you dont.
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So basically you're complaining about being killed?
Everybody goes through what you just described in some way at some time.
I have experienced everything on your list apart from the friendliness directed towards you.
From day one Brahmin Boys have been hostile and never above any of the acts the family has performed.
Same goes for other factions.
I am personally yet to see ANY enemy (with a weapon) stop to have a chit chat.
You know what they do? shoot on sight.
They always have and most likely always will.
At start I kept going into the core with the sole purpose of finding an enemy that did not fight or shoot on sight. I tried it in bluesuite, I tried it in armor.
With weapons, without weapons. Stimpaks or defibs in hand.
WALKING up to them and saying "hello" or "peace" Or even just a plain old "Don't Shoot"
I never found one that didnt kill me, but complaining about being killed by the enemy?
How could I expect anything more?
If you were taunted, I'm pretty sure it was in English so I don't know where you're getting that we don't speak English from.
If its as you say, then consider yourself lucky that you're so privileged to not be killed by Lawyers and V-Tec.
Family have never had such luxury.
What is your name in-game?
I wont shoot if you dont.
First of all i'm not complaining, well at least I don't mean to. I'm just saying out of all the factions the Family seems to be the most relentless, but that prob just because of the bad luck I get :P even though half the time im in Lawyer territory. Second, I just realized I completely fluffed up my post, BrahminBoys are the ones who never seem to know any English (sorry for the confusion, but I originally played as a Family member) and lastly my in-game name is "Matulaak", I have yet to kill a single player (mostly because of my moonwalking problem in combat) but yeah, I say "howdy" to every person I meet XD 99% of them end me before I can click enter though :P
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wait a sec, I didnt make a mistake on my post, dang it im tired. *grabs 6th can of red bull* <jk
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oh wait you meant my first post *facepalm* k, ya I screwed up there XD
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Too much screwing in too little time!
Protip: edit ur posts scroob.
I love how this thread is still going, even though it's starting point is long lost. I imagine people will use it as a chat topic now ;D.
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So basically you're complaining about being killed?
Everybody goes through what you just described in some way at some time.
I have experienced everything on your list apart from the friendliness directed towards you.
From day one Brahmin Boys have been hostile and never above any of the acts the family has performed.
Same goes for other factions.
I am personally yet to see ANY enemy (with a weapon) stop to have a chit chat.
You know what they do? shoot on sight.
They always have and most likely always will.
At start I kept going into the core with the sole purpose of finding an enemy that did not fight or shoot on sight. I tried it in bluesuite, I tried it in armor.
With weapons, without weapons. Stimpaks or defibs in hand.
WALKING up to them and saying "hello" or "peace" Or even just a plain old "Don't Shoot"
I never found one that didnt kill me, but complaining about being killed by the enemy?
How could I expect anything more?
If you were taunted, I'm pretty sure it was in English so I don't know where you're getting that we don't speak English from.
If its as you say, then consider yourself lucky that you're so privileged to not be killed by Lawyers and V-Tec.
Family have never had such luxury.
What is your name in-game?
I wont shoot if you dont.
First of all i'm not complaining, well at least I don't mean to. I'm just saying out of all the factions the Family seems to be the most relentless, but that prob just because of the bad luck I get :P even though half the time im in Lawyer territory. Second, I just realized I completely fluffed up my post, BrahminBoys are the ones who never seem to know any English (sorry for the confusion, but I originally played as a Family member) and lastly my in-game name is "Matulaak", I have yet to kill a single player (mostly because of my moonwalking problem in combat) but yeah, I say "howdy" to every person I meet XD 99% of them end me before I can click enter though :P
Family is the most relentless because other factions were stomping us hard at the beginning, makes sense, really.
It's really not hard to have a friendly encounter with another faction. If you have a buddy and are armed to the motherfucking teeth, walking up to random blues and people without shooting makes them freeze for a second. They think "why didn't they shoot on sight?" and if they try to do something stupid you light them up. Half of the time I've found they'll talk to you or run, in which case I shoot them to negatives, FA them and have a chat. Try it sometime, really interesting encounters to be had.
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Yeah Family has always been the most rentless.
Thing is, Family is all about being a faction of loners. We're loners who got together to stick to everyone who ins't a loner - Lawyers are all about the platoon, BBs are very clannish and organized (today, they used to be chaotic as fuck from what Esper told me), V-Tecs were always a swarm of noobs, scrubs and crazies with a small core composed by a elite platoon or two (Lidae's Lightbringers, Drones, etc).
Family is also the best organized at the grassroots level but we suck at getting something big co-ordinated, which is why we always had problems getting people for ZC but the Core always has a Family deathsquad patrolling the Mojave (and wishing for a nuclear winter).
Also Family has always been at the fore-front of tactical innovations - Jihads are a Family creation (low-cost guerilla deathsquads, used to kill pretty much anything barring ZC squads, only stopped when everyone started walking well-armed into the core), mass-traps started with Family, the most dastardly turtling is done by The Family, only tactic I never saw us use is grenade spamming, V-Tec used to win ZCs through MILKOR spamming and sniping the survivors.
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I joined family to actually to get them to do some organized ZC. We can all get in a TS and do something at least but apparently I'm hated by 80% of them.
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I joined family to actually to get them to do some organized ZC. We can all get in a TS and do something at least but apparently I'm hated by 80% of them.
As far as I know, no one hates. Just some dont trust you too much. There is a difference :)
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I joined family to actually to get them to do some organized ZC. We can all get in a TS and do something at least but apparently I'm hated by 80% of them.
As far as I know, no one hates. Just some dont trust you too much. There is a difference :)
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QFT
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As far as I know, no one hates. Just some dont trust you too much. There is a difference :)
Sure that must be it :)
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The only things ive seen from us is that we like to go on terrorist raids with robes and aks though I have been gone.
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The only things ive seen from us is that we like to go on terrorist raids with robes and aks though I have been gone.
Lol, been a while since you played I take it.
Haven't seen a robed raid in a long time.
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The only things ive seen from us is that we like to go on terrorist raids with robes and aks though I have been gone.
Lol, been a while since you played I take it.
Haven't seen a robed raid in a long time.
It's definitely been a while since we were all so poor robes/Aks were the only option.