FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
Community section => Events & Politics => Topic started by: baskila on September 10, 2014, 08:20:19 AM
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I think BBS are in Brahminboys, Crazy88 in V-tech but what about the rest?
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KotW in V-Tec.
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BBS in Lawyers.
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bbs and tttla in lawyers,
Arwh,crazy88 in v tech.
New order and rougues in brahmin boys.
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No clans in Family?
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No clans in Family?
there were some pistoleros and amboy dukes but they all switched to BB.
I would switch but don't wanna lose my room stuff and just got 30k Rep.
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actually it came to what some veterans said, swarms got their room while 1 faction is deserted, gg :P.
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remove family faction from game , 2 or 3 factions are enough.
even family faction is stupid , family = mommy, daddy and little kids , nothing cool here
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I wouldn't be surprised if The Family rose from the ashes. It's FOnline AOP after all.
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Warband in Brahmin Boys.
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Well, let me tell you what I know.
Midnight Riders MC, NCR Rangers, Brotherhood of Steel & Broken Hills Hunters are mostly playing for Jim & Jack & Joe Lawyer Agency.
And I'm pretty sure that I saw few guys from Ret Dot Army in JJJLA.
New Order also (at least some part of 'em) seems to be playing for Agency.
Rogues are definitely playing for Brahmin Boys.
Moreover, I saw one guy from Scavengers playing for Lawyers and another one - for Family.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Family can be easy deleted
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So whats the status ?
Lawyers:
TTTLA, BBS, Midnight Riders MC?, NCR Rangers?, Brotherhood of Steel? & Broken Hills Hunters
V-Tech
ARWH, Crazy88, KotW
Brahminboys
New Order/Warband? (sorry guys dont know your exact name) , The Rogues, Amboy Dukes?
Family
No info
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There is only RDA in Family + randoms, so we got MAX 20 ppl (if we count all rda guys online and all randoms) but we have no organisation and mot ppl just do assigments and... nothing else.
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It's up to the players to find their own balance. We don't consider it a problem if a faction is weaker for a period than the others, it will probably always be this way. Deleting the Family just because it's not competing right now is a non sense. No faction will ever be deleted anyway.
actually it came to what some veterans said, swarms got their room while 1 faction is deserted, gg
Concerning swarms, I feel players are just discovering the game right now. I saw some fights for which the winning swarm could have been easily defeated by the few 10 players opposing them, just if they had used the right strategy. While they indeed chose to remain hidden in a building, they should have prepared traps, grenades and aoe weapons in general to be able to beat such force. Which they didn't at all, they just brought small guns and camped until they got all killed.
Sneak characters as well should be developed to obtain information and improve strategies. For small groups especially, you need information on the battlefield, especially when the next move could be your last.
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Shang, take a player point of view - losing ? change faction etc. - already some left because we're not numerous, soon it will be deserted faction for rp wanabees
About guns and stuff - organised teams already know what to use, and u cannot stop rush of pkm/grenade launcher/rad rifles squad in ca's.
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About guns and stuff - organised teams already know what to use, and u cannot stop rush of pkm/grenade launcher/rad rifles squad in ca's.
All of those weapons are shit tier ;D. Especially ca's compared to faction armour.
Otherwise you are right, sad to see that faction slowly dying, but I think that will be fixed some time in the future,
Imagine it becoming a place for all the players who disliked their platoon's/factions behaviour and make The Family top 1 on the server.
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Imagine it becoming a place for all the players who disliked their platoon's/factions behaviour and make The Family top 1 on the server.
That's how I imagine it as well. An overcrowded faction should sooner or later lead to a split of its platoons.
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Shang, take a player point of view - losing ? change faction etc. - already some left because we're not numerous, soon it will be deserted faction for rp wanabees
About guns and stuff - organised teams already know what to use, and u cannot stop rush of pkm/grenade launcher/rad rifles squad in ca's.
I left the family because you guys have no organization, Everyone is worried about themselves, and not the faction as a whole. Even when told the correct strategy for certain things, People will ignore it and try to rush.
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The Family faction consists of 1 to 3 clans; I assume we only have RDA (Also assuming they didn't leave us yet.), and a few veteran FOnline players. We tried to ZC today but was went sour after people did not listen after we pushed back the enemy, and constant looting, and no listening what so ever, during that, enemy returned and before we could get our positions again, half of us were slaughtered and eventually defeated.
I suppose the Family is the most challenging faction, but we require to be united to be on scale with other factions.
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So whats the status ?
Lawyers:
TTTLA, BBS, Midnight Riders MC?, NCR Rangers?, Brotherhood of Steel? & Broken Hills Hunters
V-Tech
ARWH, Crazy88, KotW
Brahminboys
New Order/Warband? (sorry guys dont know your exact name) , The Rogues, Amboy Dukes?
Family
No info
NCR rangers doesnt play on aop, just few ncr members. Also several members from mrmc stayd on fonline2. I think NO play in laywers ? not sure tho.
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NCR rangers doesnt play on aop, just few ncr members.
Well, almost all rangers we played with on FO2 went to AoP. But sure, I can be wrong.
Also several members from mrmc stayd on fonline2.
Here you're right, sir. But still, majority of us came here.
I think NO play in laywers ? not sure tho.
As you can see from this youtube profile - yes, some of 'em really do:
http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnjplyEWCXYtjY7K5dyC4uQ (http://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnjplyEWCXYtjY7K5dyC4uQ)
Moreover, I wonder where is SoT ?
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Moreover, I wonder where is SoT ?
SoT stayed on fo2.
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SoT stayed on fo2.
If 1-2 fellas can be counted as SoT - then yeah, seems so.
Likely, most of 'em stopped playing at all.
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turn Family faction into Russians only faction and force all Russian players to join it.
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I don't understand those xenophobic comments. It is unnecessary.
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Nothing xenophobic here. [...] their barbarian language [...] collect them all and put them in one faction. Force players with russian ip to join Family only [...]
Please tell me you're trolling because that sounds like nothing but xenophobia.
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I have no russophobia or something . I think this cool idea can boost a dead Family faction
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I have no russophobia or something . I think this cool idea can boost a dead Family faction
And make every other faction lose shit ton of players.
BBoys are more than 50% russians.
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Nothing xenophobic here
Rusians are useless
barbarian language
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I'm in the family for life, even if everyone else leaves.
for anyone that left because we are less organized. you're weaklings that have no desire or willingness to adapt to a situation.
For anyone saying delete the family. Do you even game design bro?.
there will always be one faction weaker than the rest.
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Shang, take a player point of view - losing ? change faction etc. - already some left because we're not numerous, soon it will be deserted faction for rp wanabees
About guns and stuff - organised teams already know what to use, and u cannot stop rush of pkm/grenade launcher/rad rifles squad in ca's.
I left the family because you guys have no organization, Everyone is worried about themselves, and not the faction as a whole. Even when told the correct strategy for certain things, People will ignore it and try to rush.
I never saw YOU trying to make a difference Tyler, only ever crying about your losses.
And if organisation was the problem for you, didn't you think of using TS or mumble?
If so why not try organize the troops yourself?
If not good luck without it, the other factions use it too.
I dont care that you left, just dont cry about something you did nothing to help.
Oh and "Everyone" includes you too. Or did you mean "Everyone" but yourself?
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The Family faction consists of 1 to 3 clans; I assume we only have RDA (Also assuming they didn't leave us yet.), and a few veteran FOnline players. We tried to ZC today but was went sour after people did not listen after we pushed back the enemy, and constant looting, and no listening what so ever, during that, enemy returned and before we could get our positions again, half of us were slaughtered and eventually defeated.
I suppose the Family is the most challenging faction, but we require to be united to be on scale with other factions.
Are you referring to this ZC? It did go terribly but I have hope. I agree camping this room was a bad idea this time even though we managed to blast a few of them before they knew we were there.
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Grim reapers are playing with vtech
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We got 10 people that can be gathered at max on ONE day in the week, so no point in ZC, all we can do is random pking with solo/duo groups. So yes, there will be weaker faction, family will stay dead, people will leave ths faction, it was also intended?
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We got 10 people that can be gathered at max on ONE day in the week, so no point in ZC, all we can do is random pking with solo/duo groups. So yes, there will be weaker faction, family will stay dead, people will leave ths faction, it was also intended?
Its most likly not intentional but removing one faction will cause more unbalance than it would fix. As long as there is 1 player in family its not dead by definition if you dont like it then do what you propose and leave there is no point sitting around complaining that the faction is weaker rather than just playing the game or moving on, right?
And as long as those 10 players are willing who says theres no point in ZC?
I really don't think you're looking at it from the right angle, while BB's and lawyers were fighting, myself and a detachment of players managed to sneak around them all unnoticed and take their fallen comrades gear. Before they knew it was gone so were we. we then came back 5 minutes later and took care of the few that lagged behind. And while those two factions were licking their wounds we took polymer completely uncontested .
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You must be new there, because gear is easy to get in factions, we currently have tons of stuff, and still increasing, so gear is not the problem but controled zones - in which we don't have any, or any guards, so we're the weakest, enemy found our family gate the best place for pk because they aren't counter attacked, because they know we're low on numbers, all we can do is some random pk or move to other faction - you would ask why - I can answer simply - who wants to lose all the time?
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You must be new there, because gear is easy to get in factions, we currently have tons of stuff, and still increasing, so gear is not the problem but controled zones - in which we don't have any, or any guards, so we're the weakest, enemy found our family gate the best place for pk because they aren't counter attacked, because they know we're low on numbers, all we can do is some random pk or move to other faction - you would ask why - I can answer simply - who wants to lose all the time?
I think we agree, I'm not sure we are "losing" we're just not doing as well as the others.
I dont think you understood what I meant by the post :s
We beat the PK campers back all the time, and if we don't they get bored VERY quickly.
As for gear being easy to get, well yes and no. Its very easy to armor and arm yourself with something/anything.
However the best gear really adds up in price! (Blood or caps) So dont you think stealing their gear was a good idea, I certainly do. If we get kills on the way all the better.
We need to stop trying to beat them only with brute force and start using some tactics...
E.G
.Gorilla tactics, Hit and run, In and out.
.Mass stealth, Intelligence gathering and disruption.
.Pincer movements (This helps running in a tight squad of roughly 5 so its easier to learn eachothers movements)
.Diplomacy, Traders and politicians (This one is not likely to take off)
Just a couple more things. Sometimes entering a conflict that it taking place between two other factions is also not a bad idea, it causes disruption and they are already weakened from fighting each other.
And IF ITS POSSIBLE, say hello to the enemy sometimes you will be surprised how far it gets you.
I'm no tactician, I'm a medic but we need to do somthing brother!
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Just a couple more things. Sometimes entering a conflict that it taking place between two other factions is also not a bad idea, it causes disruption and they are already weakened from fighting each other.
And IF ITS POSSIBLE, say hello to the enemy sometimes you will be surprised how far it gets you.
I'm no tactician, I'm a medic but we need to do somthing brother!
You re new in Fonline ?. It is basically named sandwich and its biggest lame tactics.
LOL medic :D. I am also medic but I prefer small guns :D
Today we also made some runs thorugh Layers' grounds and we managed to kill some people.
We will try participate more in pvp at weekend(my small gang from family).
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Just a couple more things. Sometimes entering a conflict that it taking place between two other factions is also not a bad idea, it causes disruption and they are already weakened from fighting each other.
And IF ITS POSSIBLE, say hello to the enemy sometimes you will be surprised how far it gets you.
I'm no tactician, I'm a medic but we need to do somthing brother!
You re new in Fonline ?. It is basically named sandwich and its biggest lame tactics.
LOL medic :D. I am also medic but I prefer small guns :D
Today we also made some runs thorugh Layers' grounds and we managed to kill some people.
We will try participate more in pvp at weekend(my small gang from family).
Yeah I'm new, still trying to figure everything out but I'm trying real hard :3
discussions with other players really helps.
I'm sure it is already a well known tactic, I didn't know it was considered "lame"
I also prefer small guns.
Good work on your kills today! We could team up sometime, for the good of the family.
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I always imagined, if a faction doesnt have enough players to partake in a big fight, they can act like vultures and kill off the incoming waves of reinforcements.
Also, just a handful of specialized snipers with +crit +bleed leadership mods and good coordination can be devastating on some maps. I believe that AoP always has alternatives available, no matter in what aspect.
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I always imagined, if a faction doesnt have enough players to partake in a big fight, they can act like vultures and kill off the incoming waves of reinforcements.
Also, just a handful of specialized snipers with +crit +bleed leadership mods and good coordination can be devastating on some maps. I believe that AoP always has alternatives available, no matter in what aspect.
100% agreed
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I always imagined, if a faction doesnt have enough players to partake in a big fight, they can act like vultures and kill off the incoming waves of reinforcements.
Also, just a handful of specialized snipers with +crit +bleed leadership mods and good coordination can be devastating on some maps. I believe that AoP always has alternatives available, no matter in what aspect.
Remember that in open space every swarm got advantage. If you re fighting inside rooms it is a bit harder than just clicking on open range and more chances to win with smaller team.
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We will rise again let the weak leave. We will have small but strong groups that can ravage through the whole map.
Well the only problem is that new players that join the family won't be able to scavenge easily, because everything is enemy territory.
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basicaly there could be implemented kind of feature available just for weakest/least active faction. It wouldnt be unfair if it even affect PVP(sugarman companion^^).
Purpose is just to attract few members of other factions to the minor one.
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maybe allow them to recruit npc mercenary or something
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Please no NPC, thats PvP killer.
To be honest you dont need to have 100 members in faction, 15-20 is enough to do some serious shit in Zone Control. Its matter of organizing and discipline.
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maybe allow them to recruit npc mercenary or something
PvE in PvP? How about no
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maybe allow them to recruit npc mercenary or something
PvE in PvP? How about no
Why are you so rude and dismissive? No elaboration just no. I'm not saying its a good idea but you dont have to shoot others down when you don't necessarily agree with them.
So you're entirely opposed to any PvE? Because when I killed that Brahmin earlier I think that was PvE....
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Must I really explain? Most of us (players from reloaded) already experienced that. People will just use swarms of npcs during PvP which wont be fun. Also I'm always like this .
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Now you see that makes more sense. Others may not understand why you say what you do, and think you're just being an asshole maybe even a troll.
I know you're not but you want people to agree with you then you need to give them reason too.
Oh and for the record your explanation WAS needed for me and probably others, so thanks for that. Just saying NO without explaining your reasons for thinking so offers absolutely no reasons for agreeing with you.
That being said, I now agree -1 to NPCs during PvP.
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Cool beans