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« on: September 11, 2014, 01:29:20 AM »

http://fonline.ru/wikien/index.php?title=Perks
As an example of our past work. Would it be better if I would try to make something similar?
The problem is, to me it looks not that great that there is a whole page like this: http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Man_of_Steel
I'm sorry that I'm talking shit about someone's hard-work, but still.

P.s.
Also is there a page anywhere with lvl requirements of the perks? It'd help doing that thing I'm asking about above much easier ^^
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2014, 04:23:24 AM »

Agreed.
We could do screenshots on each level to figure out lvl req if have no time to spare info on it currently.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2014, 08:14:33 AM »

At first I thought, mixing weapons perks, item perks, and level up perks in one page? Dafuq.

But admiral zombie  said he's going to do a table for perks which is the same thing as bringing them to one page.

Also I'm going to merge energy rifles and pistols/smgs and call it energy weapons.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2014, 08:09:09 AM »

How about uniting all SPECIAL pages to one?
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #4 on: September 22, 2014, 08:37:02 AM »

How about uniting all SPECIAL pages to one?
Will do in due time, mb tomorrow. I'll probably also start on item perks tables.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #5 on: September 22, 2014, 09:12:01 AM »

How about making tables for weapons?

Columns can be weapon name and picture, damage and modes, ammo, tier and crafting recipe and traits

Also I'm making the throwing weapons,  I just get distracted by ingame :p
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 12:55:26 PM »

It is a great idea to regroup very small pages in bigger one.
We currently have a lot of small pages ( Something like 100 pages shorter than a tweet ) and it's not very user-friendly.
To add to this most of these pages are dead-end ( you have no other link to continue navigation ).

If will soon add some script that will apply on large table to put line in different colors ( you now, even & odd ) and increase readability of this kind of pages. ( So do not loose too much time founding right color )

Please be carefull and use wiki tools when deleting a page ; you have to be sure no other page link to this one to avoid dead-link. I do not know if you have access to "Special pages" of the wiki to see that kind of things. Please pm me if not.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 11:06:25 PM »

How about uniting all SPECIAL pages to one?
http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Category:SPECIAL
So eh, how about that? Shall I change something?


How about making tables for weapons?

Columns can be weapon name and picture, damage and modes, ammo, tier and crafting recipe and traits

I'll be on it today, at least I'll start making something like that.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2014, 02:11:48 AM »

Do we need small pages like "Strength" at all?
I didn't check it yet, but it should be possible to link to an URL anchor at the wiki?
Of course would have to relink all pages currently having a link to those lonely SPECIAL pages..
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 07:02:07 AM »

Hep.

I will take care of this (update the links ).
I do not know if you have access to the wiki tools allowing to check links between pages..
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 09:15:49 AM »

About S.P.E.C.I.A.L :
  • Small update of SPECIAL page (visual not content)
  • All wiki links related to SPECIAL now links to the corresponding paragraph of the SPECIAL page
  • Strenght page, Perception page, Endurance page, Charisma page, Intelligence page, Agility page and Lucky page are deleted
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 09:36:53 AM »

Thanks a lot Ender, I appreciate it.
Will work on making a weapon table soon enough, I hope ^^.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 11:54:42 AM »

No problem.

For the weapons I think a big table could help but I my opinion individual pages should still exist as there is the ingredients for crafting, ect.. on it. Do you agree ?
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 12:59:04 PM »

Totally, "detailed" information should not be in the table, otherwise that wiki page will get overloaded.
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Re: Unite all perk pages into one
« Reply #14 on: September 26, 2014, 08:03:36 AM »

Ok so we keep individual pages ( great ! All of them have a "Strenght required" field with a link that I just update for each weapon so It will hurt me to delete all of these pages ;o )
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Re: Uniting and dividing pages
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2014, 04:45:02 AM »

http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Category:Factions

I find information in the Category page hardly accessible, do you think I should dedicate the page for the information out of the category page?

(I suggest to dedicate this thread for such questions in future and I renamed it)
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Re: Page management
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2014, 06:14:24 AM »

So something like this table for weapons?: http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Drugs
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« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2014, 02:52:39 PM »

So something like this table for weapons?: http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Drugs
yea something like this

also center the pictures by typing <center>[text here]</center>

I did it for you
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Re: Page management
« Reply #18 on: October 05, 2014, 11:13:16 AM »

I looked over all perks and traits pages and made sure they were tabled up and lists removed where appropriate.  Looks like everything's pretty close to tidied up there.  I've begun an exhaustive process of tabling weapons.  All the information is important, but I've decided to focus on the 5 following parameters where appropriate:  strength required, range, damage, ap cost, reload cost.  Ammunition barely missed the cut as all the others were just barely more important at a glance.  A short legend will follow, since certain things will be abbreviated and certain liberties are taken.  In order to fully properly compare two weapons, you'll have to really look at both and consider modes and their different costs and effects. 

As such, I tried to pick the most basic means of attack.  For Big Guns that require deploying, the attack cost after deploying is shown.  Bleed values aren't taken into consideration, though notation will be made where appropriate.  For instance, the category of Flamers, Launchers, etc in Big Guns could be prefaced that all explosions cause knockbacks and Sniper Rifles in Small Guns could be prefaced that they cause bleed.  I've done most of the work on everything but Small Guns.  Further editing will be required, but when I'm done it should be pretty indicative of what's missing information while providing in my opinion the most relevant information.
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Re: Page management
« Reply #19 on: October 06, 2014, 05:28:12 AM »

I'm afraid we need to add "Bullets per Full Auto" and "Bullets per Burst" values to weapons... paaaain.
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