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[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

 I kind of want to do a trailer video for AoP since it has none I believe.

So I need some ideas of what I can include in it.

So far I thought of PvP, multiple builds/classes, dungeons, enhanced tactical methods, the core, legendary weapons, scavenging, and that's all I thought off

[Stem Sunders]

Disclaimer: Before I type this I just want to say that it is not my intention to bash other peoples work.
I'm sure the trailers I'm about to use as examples had much time effort and thought put into them.
I only want what ever is produced to be of the highest quality possible, as I believe a good trailer could defiantly increase the amount of interested parties.



+1 to the initial idea, of course.

That being said....This....Actually makes me (The viewer and potential player) want to not play.



(The Reloaded trailer is not view-able for some reason, but i do specifically remember an ad for Bandi-cam being present on screen. And it being generally the same trailer if slightly worse on the quality side)


It feels like an assault on my eyes. Harsh, yeah I guess, but I cant really tell whats going on.
Also I can hear people on voice comms during the trailer.

I get what anyone without a budget can do is obviously limited and if you want it to accurately portray the game-play, then something like an animated cut screen just wont do.
I've thought about it and have ideas myself, but I digress.

May I suggest using an actual voice in the trailer?
Maybe writing up some kind of script that explains the basic premise of the game.
Instead of fast moving images and text popping up on screen saying things like...

"You can do cool stuff in the game"
"Find stuff"
"Kill stuff
"Loot stuff"

Try not to use the word "Stuff". It really doesn't sound or read well in something that is supposed to be convincing people to play. (Maybe its just me)

A voiced video will also better correspond with the videos that are already present on the AoP YouTube channel, that have essentially been acting as the games trailer up until now. Even they are outdated now anyway and the information in them isn't 100% accurate anymore.

Don't just use random footage of the game (Lord knows you have a lot of it). Record purpose captured footage that accurately goes with whatever is being said/read in the trailer at that time

You could even go so far as to have a group of others working with you that script the scene and play it out to be recorded.
Kinda like AAA titles do these days, hah.

The most important thing I can say is.
When You're making it, try to think about what someone who doesn't know what FOnline is or even Fallout 1 and 2 are will require to understand and be interested.
Its easy for us to look at some PvP or any footage of the game and quickly understand what is going on.
This isn't true for non-FOnliners I have shown people the game and they had no clue what was happening on screen. So that might be something to keep in mind (Yes I called us FOnliners, what?)

That's my two cents, its all just opinions and suggestions.

I too will think about this. Ask me if you think I could help in any way.

[Kurwier]

fonline2 trailer awesome btw , we need that LOOT KILL STUFF ADVERTISMENT HERE

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Very well written! A voiced video would be interesting. I'm just curious who or how I will voice it. I'll probably use some voice changer to sound cool and entertaining to grab people's attention. Or maybe ask a youtuber to say lines for me xD

It would also be hard to find a group of players that want to help me shoot some footage, especially V-Tec since they all hold grudges and mega butthurt, especially players like the bitch AKA paragon, hellmoi, andy, and ramon. Of course I won't use random footage, I'll try finding or make my own footage the corresponds with the text. However it will be hard since AoP is like way too different for your average FO2/Reloaded player. I'm debating of making an actual trailer or an informative video on what Ashes of Phoenix is all about. A trailer would have to be short and there's a lot to cover for AoP.

fonline2 trailer awesome btw , we need that LOOT KILL STUFF ADVERTISMENT HERE

Well AoP is pretty much about that xD

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Reserved for storyboard

[Niamak]

Stem used to do some voice stuff.

[Stem Sunders]

Stem used to do some voice stuff.

http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=2079.0
http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=2090.0 - Yes...I have a voice. If it would serve, the offer is there. I could "ham it up" as much or as little as is required.

You also have others to work with. Together we are two....Courier makes three.

There are other players willing to contribute to it, I'm sure. Its not just helping you shoot the footage. It helps us all in the long run.

"AoP is like way too different for your average FO2/Reloaded player." Yes, but that's the beauty of it.

Yes a trailer needs to be short and sweet, but there is nothing stopping you making the information videos as well. They can be a little less formal and you could pretty much just play the game while giving information on what it is you're doing.

FOnline Reloaded has "Adventures of Jon Noob"

I made the audio track for that but what they were going for would have been better voiced imo.
When I made the track I was told it was for a trailer. Not a game-play video.

Something similar could be made for AoP, but with actual informative dialog.

Whatever you choose to do, I hope it works out well!

[naossano]

MrStrange should be able to describe the whole game in 30 seconds.

[MARXMAN]

MrStrange should be able to describe the whole game in 30 seconds.

That's on a bad day

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

Alright, I'll just point out some ideas in order for a video

- Video starts with AoP logo, talk about where AoP takes place
- Que in worldmap while talking about the core (why its the main place)
- Show faction bases 1 by 1, goals and enemies for each one.
- talk about joining a faction with your character
- Que in character sheet and talk about possibilities with SPECIAL, traits, tags, and different character possibilities and briefly describe changes compared to other FOnlines and new tags
- communicating with other faction members, forming platoons, squads, and TS/mumble
- show player scavenging while saying why its important, player gets  into a firefight with enemy faction members. NPCs backstab enemy faction while saying core is dangerous place.
- Show arsenal of weapons with different abilities and purposes
- Que in ZC video from GM perspective while talking about fighting for dominance in the core, show map from pipboy while constantly changing colors
- ZC leaderboards and legendary weapons, talk about why PvPing is beneficial
- For PvErs, talk about dungeons to do, show roleplayers ingame/forum

[Stem Sunders]

- Video starts with AoP logo, talk about where AoP takes place (OK)
- Que in worldmap while talking about the core (why its the main place) (OK)
- Show faction bases 1 by 1, goals and enemies for each one. (OK, but season 2 and the changes that brings need to be taken into account. Why not have a video entirely on the factions and inhabitants of Phoenix?)
- talk about joining a faction with your character (Ok, but again. Changes need to be taken into account)
- Que in character sheet and talk about possibilities with SPECIAL, traits, tags, and different character possibilities and briefly describe changes compared to other FOnlines and new tags (That is more on the information video side of things I should imagine. It wouldn't serve to mention and compare other FOnlines in a trailer)
- communicating with other faction members, forming platoons, squads, and TS/mumble (Again, more of an information thing rather than a trailer)
- show player scavenging while saying why its important, player gets  into a firefight with enemy faction members. NPCs backstab enemy faction while saying core is dangerous place. (Love it)
- Show arsenal of weapons with different abilities and purposes (Would this not be best for a video of its own?)
- Que in ZC video from GM perspective while talking about fighting for dominance in the core, show map from pipboy while constantly changing colors (Again, Love it. Especially the changing colors)
- ZC leaderboards and legendary weapons, talk about why PvPing is beneficial (Information)
- For PvErs, talk about dungeons to do, show roleplayers ingame/forum (And again, information)


A trailer really doesn't have to go into some of these things.
It needs to set a mood and give a small glimpse of what to expect and tell people where they can find it. Being vague is sometimes the best option as over facing players with information is bad. (Especially the ones that are new to FOnline)

Buzz words like "Phoenix", "Core", Factions (And their names) Should all be said as much as coherently as possible

Ever heard of the mic trick? The trailer for the division uses it to great effect. Its basically players talking in game but in a scripted manner. So imagine were wandering the core and chatting about what we see, where were going and why. Then the enemy shows up and we have to chat all tactical and, well...act basically.

Sure, its not organic but it sure would beat

"Move Stem you're blocking the door"
"Fukin Ramon, dont let Ramon escape!!"
"Fkin Swarmz"
"Cri now. Cri now you sad bastard"

You know what I mean? I don't mean to step on your ideas I'm just trying to offer honest help.

The only reason I suggest some of that be left to a video of its own is because adding all that will add a large amount of time to the video and if you were to split it up, you can spend the amount of time each topic really deserves.

And again, Season 2 must be taken into account. Or run the risk of all the effort put into making the trailer wasted by it becoming outdated.....Future proofing! That's it!

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

For season 2 we're gonna need some dev sneak peek and it will have to be only for season 2 since that's when players will come back. Also good criticism

Also I just got the idea of making an informative video series instead of a trailer (for season 2 though)

Topics can be
- Weapons and their different abilities. Weapon perks and traits. Minigun for example, sneaker spots group of enemies, RTS points them, 2 guys with minguns attack from different angles and gets them all.
- Character, traits, perks, leveling up.  New skills (outdoorsmans, engineering, persuasion, leadership, etc)
- 4 factions and talk about the 2 new ones, also the group for solo players.

That's all for now, I must sleep xd

[John Porno]

we should not include pvp filmed by stalker unless he stops playing aop 1998-style

[Caboose]

-Trailer for AoP consists of SRALKER and Cryier killing new players in their gate when they first start playing the game.
-Cannot see trailer for AoP as SRALKER uses so much smoke, you can't see the action yet calls it MLG play.
-Trailer for AoP is confused for Mexican fast food advert as it's voiced over by Warner Brothers' 'Speedy Gonzales' and server is joined by over 1million Mexican immigrants looking for work.
-Cryier emerges from his basement and falls in love with SRALKER's Mum and becomes his new step dad.
-??
-Profit

[paragon]

Shut up and take my money.

[Count Matthew]

we should not include pvp filmed by stalker unless he stops playing aop 1998-style

Explain this? Unsure what you mean!

[Teela]

Some reference material:

http://blog.kertgartner.com/2012/03/making-entertaining-and-engaging-video-game-trailers/

Too long to read so to summarize. I liked this one from the ones mentioned in the article:



For AOP trailer this would mean:

Trailer lasts 1 minute
Trailer doesn't have any text captions

Storyboard:

fade in
"No Name Yet Team Presents"
fade out
fade in/sound effect
Ashes of Phoenix logo
fade out
fade in/music starts (mix in some voicecomms audio if needed for max epicness)
30 seconds of game play footage that works towards an epic concluding shot.
fade out
infos

THE END.

[John Porno]

dont forget to include footage of gm aboose and general "trollish devs"

[paragon]

and irc

[Niamak]

Too much information is boring. You should make a trailer first then make informative videos after IMO.