FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
Miscellaneous section => Off-topic Discussions => Topic started by: Prosector on September 14, 2014, 07:45:29 AM
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I never tried anything but AOP, I willing to play Aop in the future, but I'm thinking about starting another fonline game which is more like pve (contains cities, quests). What you suggest? How many of these kind of games exist? Are they fun to play in co-op? How they differ from each other? I am not an mmo grinder, I'm looking for quality quests. Isn't there somewhere a list and brief description of all fonline game?
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http://fodev.net/status/
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http://fodev.net/status/
But not all games, because there were many clones of TLA, 2238. There were also other projects which was incompleted Desert Europe? or still development.
The best servers are:
- Reloaded (based on 2238 first english server)
- AoP so far but needs more work
- TLA mk2
Singleplayer incoming games:
- Van Buren
- What Remains but probably "frozen"/inactive
- The Tangut Prophecy probably dead, not answers from author, you can find topic somewhere on rpg codex
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Open source 2238, you can play as "singleplayer" if you want to check how it looks http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,29387.0.html
or russian orginal TLA sdk http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,24341.0.html
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I have played Reloaded, Fonline2 and now AOP. This is by far the best experience I have had so far. Even though AOP concentrates more on PvP I find there is still tons of fun to be had with just the environment. Yes there are not that many quests as of yet, as ZC is one of the main attractions in phoenix. I just count the enemy players as part of the environment so in a way it is PvE.
Were you thinking of trying to make your own version of Fonline with more PvE elemements? or just asking if there is one that already exists?
In short, stay here. for the others are dark and full of trolls :p
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still waiting for
www.LastFrontier.ru (http://www.LastFrontier.ru)
;), Hope it will be great.
p.s.
cvet and his company are the ones that are making it (FOnline SDK is cvet's creation).
Also:
TLAMk2 is an awesome server, tried playing on Reloaded\Requiem\FOnline2, always returned back to TLA.
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Oh yes last frontier, forgot about it :P Anyway there should be written history of fonline which include all games, developers etc.
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Thank you guys for the fast reply, the fodev.net link was actually very useful. I enjoy pvp more than pve if it comes to multiplayer, but Fallout 1-2 was an awesome single player rpg and I seek an opportunity to have similar experience in co-op with friends.
Were you thinking of trying to make your own version of Fonline with more PvE elemements? or just asking if there is one that already exists?
noo i meant start an account and play :$
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That makes more sense :p
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(...) I enjoy pvp more than pve if it comes to multiplayer, but Fallout 1-2 was an awesome single player rpg and I seek an opportunity to have similar experience in co-op with friends.
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I think TLA is closest to that at the time, for it is one of the oldest projects and therefore has the most content in terms of quests/ stuff to do.
The true Fallout feeling however is something you still have yet to find on all these servers... The transition from single- to multiplayergame generally is always cutting off some things that were great in single player but just can't be realized for multiplayer without opening tons of abuse/cheating possibilities. That results in such sad things like Charisma stat or gambling skills having absolutely no appliance anymore.
AoP is a completely new setting, so off lore it could be another game. 2238/Reloaded brings you the classic core region, but without alts it's a pain in the ass to play. FOnline2 is an alternative off-lore setting in the core region which has huge potential but still needs a lot more content. TLA I only played shortly and apart from having the most complex crafting system and actual quests that continue stories from the old games, there is also a lot of crap and absurdities in there, like those blood and gore horror scene maps etc. Dunno about all the other servers, some are in russian only, some have 20 players max a day, was never worth checking out for me. Desert Europe looked interesting, but again very off-lore.
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Reloaded was good...then a lot of shit started happening that made it bad. (Abuse,unbalance with implants,Turbo was too OP,motion sensors everywhere,tanks tanks tanks )
FO2 just sucked.
2238 was cool but died :V so now aop my favorite server
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Reloaded was good...then a lot of shit started happening that made it bad. (Abuse,unbalance with implants,Turbo was too OP,motion sensors everywhere,tanks tanks tanks )
FO2 just sucked.
2238 was cool but died :V so now aop my favorite server
Im sure it is. I mean like there is no hexing, No damage perks, any noob build works. Pretty much noob freindly. I can understand why its ur fav )
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Kestrel if you want to start a fight. PM me instead.
Also AoP my favorite server because it has a lot of new weapons, new mechanics, different armors, traits,perks, every type of weapon is balanced. Nothing is OP because everything has a pros and cons. Oh, and you can revive players, my #1 reason.
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With the exception of old 2238 sessions, (session 5 and under) this is the best one so far in terms of greater amount of features and balance.
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The best thing about this server is that everyone can participate in PVP and everyone is useful , not only little hermetic clans like on other servers. Here we must unite to survive&conquer. This server kicks ass.
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In my opinion:
advantages AoP
-perks in weapons
-different weapons usable in pvp
-something new with greath graphic objects
-new mechanics(like fa, crafting)
-tough npcs
-leadership bonuses
disadvantages:
-next sniper noob friendly game(so swarm takes most part in activities)
-no 1hex feature in game based in hexagonal architecture(sorry for my english)
-AoP will be good game after 2-3 wipes(bugs, exploits)
-always not full organisation inside factions
Fo2:
advantages:
-hexing,
-original fallout map
-one mistake and you can be dead
-bazooka(hex shooting)
-wipe is comming(so a lot of new dungeons etc)
-big community
disadvantages:
-terrible lags (moonwalking)
-t4 totally unbalanced(and some rare t3 also)
-only few weapon worth to use(maybe it will be changed after wipe)
-you need good build to survive
-op knockouts(dissbalance in character builds and too big bonuses from wepaons)
Its only my subjective opinion. I really respect developers for their work cuz they are doing it for free in their free time.
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"-always not full organisation inside factions"
I'm sorry, but it can't be considered a flaw ^^, besides you're off-topping.
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lol...most of things you mentioned as disadvantages in aop have happened in fo2.....Bugs and exploits?I still rememeber certain players from fo2 who had kmh kmh lot of caps etc.Will be good after 2-3 wipes?Sure like every other server is improving over time.Faction organisation i won't comment...Only thing i agree is that snipers need to be hurted a little bit and they should increase % of one hex bullets,but it should never go 100% bullets like in fo2 or other servers at 1 hex bcz people have various pings,pc's etc.
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What about 2238 made the "Faction mod" and the "Town-Control" + "Merc System" +++..
Anyways, my opinion :
- 2238
- AoP
- FO2
- Reloaded
- Desert Europe
- TLA MK2
- FOnline : Surface Dwellers (Not tried it, but this one gonna kick-ass with the zombies concept)
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I personally liked TLA MK2 and Requiem quite a bit.
2238/Reloaded isn't that great for PvP but the features were flush, and since it was probably most english speaking player's first FOnline, had some great moments there.
Didn't really get into FO2 for being kind of unimaginative derivative of 2238 and Reloaded being a rehash of 2238 as well.
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Played 2238 and FO2 before this.
AoP outbeats them for me because its more balanced, not min max everyone has the same build kind of thing. Also since we have 4 factions and HQ's very easy to team up and interact with people. Others were quite lonely unless you were in a faction, bunch of time spent on world map to get into town which is empty.
Its personal preference I would say, so far this is THE FONLINE game I was looking for.
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lol...most of things you mentioned as disadvantages in aop have happened in fo2.....Bugs and exploits?I still rememeber certain players from fo2 who had kmh kmh lot of caps etc.Will be good after 2-3 wipes?Sure like every other server is improving over time.Faction organisation i won't comment...Only thing i agree is that snipers need to be hurted a little bit and they should increase % of one hex bullets,but it should never go 100% bullets like in fo2 or other servers at 1 hex bcz people have various pings,pc's etc.
Sorry but You argument with various pcs and pings is invalid. We got 2014 year. About 90 % players in fo2 got computers and connections which let them go 1hex. But in that engine its only one feature which can show skill in 1 vs 1 fight. Please dont start talking about shooting with pistol and cripling and ko's on enemy beacuse its not skill its just unballanced critical chance and too big crit rolls. Without that feature developers are simply losing potential players. I dont care about it its only their problem. I personally know about 20 people which would start play if there were that feature.
If I want play sniper I will go play battlefield 3.
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This thread also? Will you go to any topic and start just spamming a goddamn commercial about how 1-hexing is god-like skill and people will just get tired of battle system unless devs add it here? (Also about some mysterious people that would come here coz they want to bam-bam everyone from 1-hex range.)
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This thread also? Will you go to any topic and start just spamming a goddamn commercial about how 1-hexing is god-like skill and people will just get tired of battle system unless devs add it here? (Also about some mysterious people that would come here coz they want to bam-bam everyone from 1-hex range.)
Well no its not god like skill, but let play also some loners and dont force them to play with big groups. More opportunities= more players, You dont agree?
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This thread also? Will you go to any topic and start just spamming a goddamn commercial about how 1-hexing is god-like skill and people will just get tired of battle system unless devs add it here? (Also about some mysterious people that would come here coz they want to bam-bam everyone from 1-hex range.)
Well no its not god like skill, but let play also some loners and dont force them to play with big groups. More opportunities= more players, You dont agree?
We're off-topping here. I've already stated my oppinion in an another thread.
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devs here are trying to make something unique. If you love 1 hex so much go play one of the many other fonline games that all have it.
Oh and btw let's add spaceships + shit shoveling, more opportunity = more players, you don't agree?
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I personally know about 20 people which would stop play if there was that feature. The players that actually play are more valuable, so please, gather your 20 friends and 1-hex each other, gently, but not here.
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1-hex each other, gently
This is going to the list of my pick-up lines, next to the "I'm going to baneling bust your mining lane."
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lol...most of things you mentioned as disadvantages in aop have happened in fo2.....Bugs and exploits?I still rememeber certain players from fo2 who had kmh kmh lot of caps etc.Will be good after 2-3 wipes?Sure like every other server is improving over time.Faction organisation i won't comment...Only thing i agree is that snipers need to be hurted a little bit and they should increase % of one hex bullets,but it should never go 100% bullets like in fo2 or other servers at 1 hex bcz people have various pings,pc's etc.
Sorry but You argument with various pcs and pings is invalid. We got 2014 year. About 90 % players in fo2 got computers and connections which let them go 1hex. But in that engine its only one feature which can show skill in 1 vs 1 fight. Please dont start talking about shooting with pistol and cripling and ko's on enemy beacuse its not skill its just unballanced critical chance and too big crit rolls. Without that feature developers are simply losing potential players. I dont care about it its only their problem. I personally know about 20 people which would start play if there were that feature.
If I want play sniper I will go play battlefield 3.
So since its 2014,distance to server doesnt got to do anything with latency?Sure,maybe in your world.Not every country has same standard connection speed,so just don't.If you want 1v1 just organise it,it's not that hard.Concept of this server isn't for "loners" although in my opinion its possible,you don't need 1 hex to kill more enemies with 1 guy,there are various options and tactics.Snipers do need a nerf,but all in its time i guess.And far as i've seen ~200 ppl everyday playing don't mention 1 hex.I believe 200>20.
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Well no its not god like skill, but let play also some loners and dont force them to play with big groups. More opportunities= more players, You dont agree?
So...if you need 1hex and loner gameplay....why don't you stay on fo2 ?
I'll tell you why, its lonely and boring unless there is event.