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[John Porno]

you would write a script for that? what a nolife.

[paragon]

it's 30 mins for me and 5 mins for normal programmer.

And, wait, 20+ hours to be able to pvp and you expect people playing this game to have life?

[Stem Sunders]

I see, so back to fairness.

I can write a script to open my inventory and apply stimpack, and it'll do it in less than 1 second. You can try to intervene it, but do you really want to?

This is the kind of stuff that makes me not want to play.

Once someone uses a third party tool or mods the game themselves, beyond what the developers intended (How the game is released, taking into account updates by the dev team.) Is just off putting to me, maybe some others too.

This is where I see the game becoming more unfair. How many players use hotkey scripts for such actions?
How many players know about it? Certainly not the newbies.
It makes the gap even wider, not just between newbies and vets but even those in the middle.

Furthermore, how many of these newer players (once they know about it) can be bothered or even want to set it up?
I don't and wont use these hotkeys, I only use what the game provides which means there are some players out there with an immediate edge over me right?

So its like, if you cant beat them join them or leave...Does anyone get what I'm talking about...Finding it hard to explain without outright calling it cheating.
I'm not even saying the player is inherently wrong for using it, if the option is there someone will always surely take it.

[naossano]

Would it be possible to lock or reduce the amount of files from the client side to prevent that nasty cheating ?

[paragon]

By opinion of the engine developer, pretty hard ( http://forum.fonline2.com/index.php?topic=6234.0 ).

And e.g. AutoHotkey is not client modification, so you can't really track it.

[Anza]

Not really Nao.

Anyway, it is not because it is possible and because it gives you a clear advantage that you should use it. Even the no wall mod, even though it seems tolerated, I won't use it. On a free game with so few players, do you really feel that much urge to win so you have to use mods ?   

[John Porno]

I feel like those 3rd party mods only become a problem when they are partially tolerated. It's like, before 2238 legalized duallogging I never even thought about using it and I never felt it had any impact on the fights, apart from the occasional mutie airstrike but that was a problem of mercs, not of duallogging.

As soon as it was partially legalized for pve though, it became the norm. Suddenly, every fonline player used duallog and it became the normal way to play the game and thus the threshold to abuse it is much lower.

Generally, I believe such third part mods like no walls patch and autohotkeys are only used by a significant amount of people to compensate for a problem within the game's design. The bigger the problem, the more people will be tempted to circumvent it. We have often seen it happen in MMOs, be it wow or wot that at some point, so many people used a certain mod that the devs said, well, might as implement it into the game, for everyone. I do however think that those mods should be frowned upon and that no official should advocate their usage.

[Captain Chilly]

i like how we completely went off from this post's main discussion


also, you guys COULD host a non-permanent local server, which would be laggy for most player but it would be some sort of placeholder until lyou find another way to host
just saying

[twat]

im confused about the stimpack script.. my folder has a hotkey configuration .. i can bind everything in the game to a hotkey.. psycho.. stim.. beer..

[twat]

o i c now . no way to hotkey defib. I dont think there should be though.. unless it takes extra ap for putting it into the usable slot first.

[PusiteGA]

just make scrit chek if defib in any hand slot and if its then alow defb