FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
Community section => Roleplay Activities => Topic started by: Samantha Darlin on September 18, 2014, 11:11:39 PM
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My name is Samantha Darlin, I'm a 14 year old hyper-intelligent and diplomatic member in good standing reputation with The Family. I'm as nice as they come, but like any other member of The Family, if you cross me, I will swear holy hell revenge down upon you. <3
Now listen, I don't have any delusions. This is war. Our factions are all after the same things that started this whole damn conflict to begin with. Resources. Now, I'm about to post a statistic that I've gathered after surveying the landscape of the greater Phoenix area:
Jim & Jack & Joe Lawyer Agency: 1196
Brahminboys: 728
The Family: 739
V-Technologists: 1629
Those are the approximate numbers of each faction. As you can tell we're fucked, The Family and Brahminboys are heavily outnumbered. Mostly by YOUR worst enemy, and trust me, after discussing the matter with several Family members, we're all far more likely to work with you BB's than the V-Pricks, who always get into our business.
I'm not saying let's have a truce right off the bat, But maybe we can work towards at least not blowing each other away EVERY time we see each other. I've already had a few experiences while I was in the Core and didn't get attacked by Brahminboys. I would eventually like to work towards trading with you. And who knows, eventually you scratch our backs with Lawyers, we scratch yours with V-Pricks.
Like I said, I have no delusions. Of course there will always be the occasional asshole or ignorant new guy who isn't hip to our way of life. But maybe this could be a start?
XoXoXoXoXoXoXo
Love,
Samantha Darlin <3
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I would be fine not shooting any Family members if they don't shoot me first.
But not everyone will agree with this, some players are just blood thirsty and kill anyone not in their faction, sometimes even their own members.
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Stalker always fires first :p
Unless I'm out looking for blood I just say hi, sometimes it works...Mostly not.
I've had more BBs fire my way than lawyers ever did.
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BB member here. I support this, since Lawyers and V-Tech are the true antagonists of Phoenix.
But even if I support it, it's going to take the support of much of BB for this to fully come to fruition.
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Hell yeah I want it, we even have the same colour pallet! (Almost). Although, you know how it usually goes: "But I'm on your side!" ; "I don't read forum you loser" *death*.
I don't know if, by doing that, we will go against game logic, but it sounds fun, so why not?
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It would be fun to try and get some zone control starting together. Going to see if some in the family who do zone control would be willing to share a teamspeak for a joint operation.
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As Khan of the Ancient Mongols dynasty, I disagree. We don't need allies, especially weak foes who run like whipped dogs...! The Family is will lose
its pride in becoming subject to these western dogs.
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We dont need to make any aliances sicne we are the strongest faction.
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The Family was here in phoenix first. Then these fools show up with dollar signs in their eyes. Well let me give you a message: All you imposters WILL be cleared out of our beloved homeland. Alliances are not an option. I will personally break any alliances made by Family Betrayers. Goodday.
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As Khan of the Ancient Mongols dynasty, I disagree. We don't need allies, especially weak foes who run like whipped dogs...! The Family is will lose
its pride in becoming subject to these western dogs.
We dont need to make any aliances sicne we are the strongest faction.
Yay!
Think twice lads and do not let the pride obscure your eyes. Our foes are getting stronger, they fight tactically - not by their numbers.
I am for our mutual support and cooperation. Such idea should be discussed deliberately by the platoons leaders and by the most experienced members of each faction. United we stand, divided we fall.
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An alliance with farmers ? we all know where the carrot is going to be in the end.
Offer a necklace with heads of Lawyers and V-Techs to Don and he'll probly think about it, but us Family won't take pity until orders are placed.
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when my fellow v techs mount an attack I tell them to focus on the Brahmin boys and not the lawyers or the family but as always there is that one person who thinks he is all badass that he goes attack the lawyers or the family we respect your agendas but there will always be that one player in the faction that will ignore simple orders or commands and spill the wrong blood such as we do oftenly which I have "tried" to stop
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I would support this if it was good for the business. Currently nothing can be gained from them, except the loot their corpses drop at our gates.
We've been holding this town for 20 years before all this new comers heard of rumors. You don't go to farmers with an offer, they come to us with gifts to ask for friendship. Until then I would rather see streets painted in blood than share the wealth what is rightfully ours in this town.
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any alliance sucks. fuck peace make war
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any alliance sucks. fuck peace make war
Alliances are created in order to wage more wars, so it's a win/win
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As I said before, I have no delusions about what's going on here in the Wasteland. War. War never changes. I'm not even saying an alliance should be formed. I just a mutual understanding of our situation here. We're both losing land mass. I think we can both agree we want to be able to loot the Polymer Lab without fear of getting blown to pieces and losing all your stuff.
It's true, we were here longest, and in the end, I believe in my heart that The Family will prevail. But to see those means through to the end, I understand what needs to be done. This is War. and war never changes. In war there needs to be alliances, even if short lived, in order to see through your ultimate vision.
Those in the Family here disagreeing with me are short-sighted in my opinion, and lack vision for what can be accomplished for our Godfather. The Family and Brahminboys can get back to tearing each others throats out... but maybe it can at least wait a while so we can get some shit done on both our ends. Like keeping the southeastern territories out of the hands of Lawyers and V-Techs.
For the time being, I'll keep my guard up around BB's, but I won't shoot first, only to defend. We'll see how this goes.
All my Love~
Samantha Darlin
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I would love to see this, but as evidenced from this small sample size of a thread, most people are just assholes and dont want alliances.
Last time I didn't shoot an enemy on sight, we helped each other out, made a deal to not kill on sight next time we saw each other.
A day later the same guy killed me took my loot.
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I would love to see this, but as evidenced from this small sample size of a thread, most people are just assholes and dont want alliances.
First of all calling someone an asshole because they don't share YOUR OPINION is just ridiculous.
Second of all, server just started and its more fun to PvP with everyone then to share scavenging areas. We didn't even met all of our members in game yet, there will be time for alliances and deals.
And finally, roleplay behind family wouldn't make sense for us to ask for alliance. Yes this is subject for a change, but don't go around name calling people because they don't share your view on that subject.
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as evidenced from this small sample size of a thread, most people are just assholes and dont want alliances.
So someone not wanting alliance = they are an asshole? Oh please explain. You should work for the State Dept.
Jesus, there are FOUR factions in this game, and you want to make it just two? Too harsh for you? Come on!
Any Family member suggesting any form of alliance is a traitor and is not worthy of our ranks I daresay. The Family will prevail, and we don't need some farmers that smell like manure to help us do so.
I know I may have sounded rude, so let me close this with our official Family Prayer:
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
Ev'ryone can see we're together
As we walk on by
(FLY!) and we fly just like birds of a feather
I won't tell no lie
(ALL!) all of the people around us they say
Can they be that close
Just let me state for the record
We're giving love in a family dose
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up everybody and sing
Living life is fun and we've just begun
To get our share of the world's delights
(HIGH!) high hopes we have for the future
And our goal's in sight
(WE!) no we don't get depressed
Here's what we call our golden rule
Have faith in you and the things you do
You won't go wrong
This is our family Jewel
We are family
I got all my sisters with me
We are family
Get up ev'rybody and sing
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Peace? Here's your peace.
I too once thought peace would solve some issues.
Children talk of peace, men fight!
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Good job brother. After they came to camp our gate, godfather sent us an order to quickly retaliate.
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The bodies are stacking up, won't be long now. 8)
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Not that I approve of, but just going to leave this here.
(http://i.imgur.com/nduUbZt.png)
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Peace? Here's your peace.
I too once thought peace would solve some issues.
Children talk of peace, men fight!
bluesuits killing is cool
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Not that I approve of, but just going to leave this here.
(http://i.imgur.com/nduUbZt.png)
I just ate my own words about it not making sense in RP aspect.
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Why would the family "Assist" BBs? They are here to take OUR city.
Or atleast I think thats how the lore goes.
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Why would the family "Assist" BBs? They are here to take OUR city.
Or atleast I think thats how the lore goes.
Obviously one who wrote lore expected Vtech more at our gates ;) But I've seen both factions hunting our bluesuits so well....
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Why would the family "Assist" BBs? They are here to take OUR city.
Or atleast I think thats how the lore goes.
Obviously one who wrote lore expected Vtech more at our gates ;) But I've seen both factions hunting our bluesuits so well....
I see equal amounts of both factions camping our gates and shooting my brothers.
Interestingly I see very few lawyers, and some I have met have been more than willing to cooperate for a short time.
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Maybe You should try with the other faction?
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m67104/64820-clip-92kb.jpg)
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That's a bit easy when you leave 1 person into each zone you're capturing :p
We'll improve the ZC system soon hopefully.
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I knew i didn't see 6 people in whorehouse,killed 2 still no reset...
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Maybe You should try with the other faction?
(http://clip2net.com/clip/m67104/64820-clip-92kb.jpg)
russian+polish rednecks conquered whole world? it sucks all factions should unite to kick their asses
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Well we only want to fight to be honest. We did that to check what we cant get from trader when we are controling all zones.
russian+polish rednecks conquered whole world? it sucks all factions should unite to kick their asses
Thats the problem, other groups have really big problem with uniting players under one group.
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Literally went to have a time-trial swim in the pool, thought about going to an ordinary organized ZC. Yeah, thanks for ruining my evening you fellas. Now I'll have to go sleep ;D.
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Hmmmm...
From a profit standpoint, I think it is profitable to have a alliance with BBs because they don't present rich targets as the Vtecs and Lawyers do, not enough of them. BBs and Family racking up Vtec and Lawyer kills, we could gain great loot from this partnership.
Me, most of my kills are Vtecs. Vtecs are like the goblins of phoenix. It seems every time I go out, I have to shoot some Vtec scum in the face or get shot by one. BBs are a sideshow compared to them, they're only dangerous when they get organized. Lawyers, on the other hand, are deviously smart and enigmatic, they keep presenting a menace.
I am up for, if not a alliance, at least a non-aggression pact outside certain areas - Say, no shooting each other around Gates, Eastern Square, Poly, Verde, Whorehouse, Bio Lab, etc. No gate raiding. Anywhere else its free for all. For alliance we need mechanics first.
These farmers, althrough rustic and backward, are a down-to-earth people. Perhaps...
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Won't happen unless some miracle will take place. I can assure you right now that any alliances between factions THIS early will fail miserably ^^. Between platoons.. Maybe.
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Ok never expected that our Don has that traitorous ideas .......
Assist them ? >:(
I already assist them by killing them if that's what he meant otherwise we need another Don to take his place.
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Ok never expected that our Don has that traitorous ideas .......
Assist them ? >:(
I already assist them by killing them if that's what he meant otherwise we need another Don to take his place.
Maybe it's time he went to sleep, with the fishes see?
In all honesty though we do need help haha, an alliance is a bit much though BBs have butchered us in ZC so badly that it is hard to forgive them..
Maybe we will get lucky and some huge clan will set up shop in the family, and all us originals can just tag along for glory.
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Oh, mAdman that last wish is... There is a possibility of that ;) a huge one, when this server gets better, lots of people from 2 particular clans will come. (I'm not saying this server is bad, they just want to wait 'till launch-bugs are sorted out).
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I don't like the idea of us "tagging along for the glory". Us originals built the Family. We won't go with them for the glory, they will go with us. We got the experience, the smarts, the practice and the gear, they got the organization and numbers. Win-win, I say.
Can anybody describe me situation with organized groups in Family?
How do you feel about active fight-able population in there?
Do you have less organized force than other factions?
I'm asking because it's possible that up to 20-25 people can join Family soon, but we don't want to break the balance.
There's no organized group in The Family that I know of. I do think there are some people from RDA.
We got some good members but we're lacking both in numbers and leadership - best leader guy we have is Blasma Khan, who is considered our master tactician, then Stribe and Wetfart. We lack numbers partly because we simply have less members than anyone but Brahmin Boys and partly because a lot of our members are carebears/noobs who stay in base doing assigs and naked core runs and never show up in ZC. Its kinda jarring to someone who wanted to ZC so bad he went to a ZC in level 5 and had to hunt some critters in-situ so he could fight with the big boys.
I think organization is complicated. I think organization-level within factions is generally Brahmin Boys (small but very organized) >>> Lawyers = Family >>> Vtec.
Brahmin Boys are aparently from a few organized clans, polish-russians. They're the smallest faction but they are almost always up at the same time (which here is from 3:00 PM to 7:00 PM) but once its late in Europe you barely see any of them, at best some strays that can be shot easily by a small group. At first I heard they were quite a disorganized bunch.
Lawyers, from what I heard, a bunch of organized clan-platoons that work independently of each other. They aparently don't get well with each other - Maybe its just me, but Lawyers complain about team-killers all time. I heard from some of them that they shoot each other just as often as they shoot the enemy. Weird. Lawyers are smart and crafty, through, which is why I see any possible alliance between them and Vtec as little more than lawyers hiding behind the blues' cannonfodder hordes.
Family seems to be at a similar level of organization, except we're a lot less self-destructive and a lot more inefficient yet - We're mostly loners who banded together into a faction. We take too much time so far to gear up, and many of our newer members are carebears or still need to learn the finer points of discipline during ZC (damned lootwhores). That said, Family is all about sticking together as the underdog against the immense, never-ending tides of degenerates, mutants and maniacs the Core throws at us.
V-Tech, from what I hear, is essentially a huge swarm of players, a mix of noobs, vets, /b tards and multiple nationalities, with a few enclaves of organization, like Lidae's Lightbringers platoon. Dangerous as hell in ZC because they just swarm everyone with +30 noobs + grenade spam/sniper teams, but individually most vtecs seem more noobish on the average, I see them commit some quite dumb acts in ZC, like rushing all in the same watched entrance, but their sheer mass lets them pull balsy shit like that where the other factions would lose. Only a few elite vtecs like Ramon (worthy foe, sneaker extraordinarie) are dangerous individually Sometimes I have a feeling that if Lidae's Lightbringers left, they would be stomped on by the Lawyers.
Pretty sure that 20-25 people won't break the balance, and The Family is always glad to help new arrivals. Depending on their playtime, we might finally be able to return to the ZC map in big style, especially once everyone rebuilds their stocks.
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we go out in bluesuits because we don't want to lose the gear we got into fighting the wrong faction [A.K.A lawyers/family]
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we go out in bluesuits because we don't want to lose the gear we got into fighting the wrong faction [A.K.A lawyers/family]
I don't mean naked core runs, we all do that. I meant more in the sense there are too few BBs to sustain the equipment needs we have. On the other hand, there are enough vtecs and lawyers to keep us deep in loot once we kill them.
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every time when we are camped by bbs lawyers etc I tell my faction to quit trying to kill them they will give up when the fish are no longer biting if you know what I mean
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Family Tactics : camp room hoping to kill enemies 1 by 1
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Family Tactics : camp room hoping to kill enemies 1 by 1
Yes stalker, cause 6-7 of us should totally rush 20 people head on.
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Family Tactics : camp room hoping to kill enemies 1 by 1
Hey! I've got an idea! Lets make fun of the people trying to us TACTICS to create a bottleneck because they're outnumbered! Yeah, serves them for trying to fight the power.
/heavy heavy sarcasm
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Fight, fight, fight the powaa!
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It would be better if the BB's and Family each took a few zones together, rather than both of us having none. I am all for a treaty. we stand to gain. This treaty is not an option; it's a necessity!
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It would be better if the BB's and Family each took a few zones together, rather than both of us having none. I am all for a treaty. we stand to gain. This treaty is not an option; it's a necessity!
I hope something like that is going to happen after next update.
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This is how I see it. In current state it would make sense, because part of our players left, new platoon that joined us are inactive, if me manage somehow to gather people for zc its made of randoms and no ts, which means tactics are on lowest level.
Current BB state as I see it, shitload of people left/switched, there is group of 5-6 tight players that I rarely see. Heard one platoon is currently inactive but will be back ?
Main problem is - number of players in general. While it looks like swarming from another faction its because they actually have normal/decent numbers and both of our faction have like what 5-6 (talking about people who are eager to do zc, we can muster bigger numbers for random things, and randoms things are shitty in bigger numbers :/)
While together we could do zc if we would all actually organize(time zones are also a big factor here), lets be honest, the server is slowly dying. From 200-300 players to 50-80 (in best case 100) from which 50% are doing just PvE. That 4 vs 4 which was fun at beginning with a lot of random fight in the core is turning into Law vs Vtech (who mostly only log in for zc) while others are trying to randomly attack them for some fun.
I don't want to sound pessimistic but thats how I see it. I suggest you contact family platoon (if there is one currently, I have no idea anymore) and try to work it out with them.
Even if devs lets say make alliance lore wise, server is still lacking players for serious 4 side war even a 3 side one from the looks of it.
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As a lawyer, i am totally supporting an alliance between B-Boys & Family.
From what i've seen, both factions are able to use some effective tactics while having some nice individual players.
But the difference between V-Tec/Lawyers numbers and Family/B-Boys number is too huge to rely on tactics only. Rather to have one faction absorbing the other, an alliance between B-Boys & Family would allow both faction to still exist and keep their identity, while having the high enough number to sustain fight agains't lawyers/V-Tech.
Right now, things are too unbalanced to be enjoyable.
PS: Should this thread be moved on the political sub-section ?
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Shut the fuck up, Lawyer. We don't want or need your opinion on this matter... even if you are right... you bastard...
(All my love! Just getting into the RP spirit :P When I made this thread originally, there were 300 players constantly. Logged on tonight on a Saturday... a day that shoulb be bumping with action.... barely 20 people on... WE NEED MOAR PLAYERS!!)