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A little and big AGI tweak.
« on: September 15, 2014, 09:21:12 AM »

Hi there.
As for now AGI stat is nearly useless. As veteran(lol jk) FO player I instinctively put little bit too much into this stat, and i regret it now. That was my fault, but it made me think that AGI can also buff movespeed a little bit (about 0.3 per point). As for now i see no point in taking AGI for any character, sniper, closecombatant or melee. With the movespeed buff it would be more viable for those who fight in close quarters, while still being pretty dull for long-range fighters.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 09:25:10 AM »

No problem. Take 1 Agility and enjoy your knockdowns.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 09:26:35 AM »

-1 for making those changes during season

+1 for changing AG but i really dont think that it should give movement speed, now its like useless stat especially for snipers because ag gives you protection against KD and bypasses which can be easy countered by taking QR and alot of LK
it also gives ap regen+ but its very small, its still worth to stand still during fight to get another 12,50 apregen and when you are standing then AG gives you very small bonus to ap regen..
with 10 AG : 20,50 [12,50 + 3,60 + 4,4 from AG]
with 1 AG : 16,54 [12,50 + 3,60 + 0,44 from AG]
i talked about it before release with john already but he was still saying that AG is ok..  :-\

No problem. Take 1 Agility and enjoy your knockdowns.
support CA or LAmk2/fire + quick recovery = 0 kd ap cost, try it  ;)
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 09:33:23 AM »

I got 10 agility on my character and I am really dissapointed so i can say now AGI without bonus to armor class is big shit. 


Clever player will regain action points standing in one place.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 10:27:53 AM »

wait wait .. when you stand still you gain AP from your base regen AND regen+ ?  Then ag actually better than I thought, if you are in firefight where both sides are regenerating ap between shots youll shoot faster...slightly
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2014, 10:58:24 AM »

wait wait .. when you stand still you gain AP from your base regen AND regen+ ?  Then ag actually better than I thought, if you are in firefight where both sides are regenerating ap between shots youll shoot faster...slightly

its not worth, i have tested it.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2014, 01:08:52 PM »

You DON'T gain AP+ when standing. While you are standing you gain 12.5 AP if your AG is 1 or 10.
So topic started is pretty much right, AGI is not really worth anything right now, it even hurts HtH's ;D, since Sprinter perk works only when you are low on AP. So if you've made yourself a 10AGI HtH that boost will be shorter if you had 1 AGI.
Also that KD res isn't worth it at all, even with 10 agi and a perk you won't escape them.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2014, 01:09:19 PM »

AHAH to the people who put 10 agi, this is a NEW fonline, not the same game mechanics you are used to XD
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2014, 05:18:18 PM »

You DON'T gain AP+ when standing. While you are standing you gain 12.5 AP if your AG is 1 or 10.

AP+ affects your regeneration regardless the action you are doing (read the description), so yes, if you are standing still you will regenerate AP faster if you have more AG. Still AG need some improvement, i think that the speed bonus can be a reasonable boost.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #9 on: September 15, 2014, 05:20:19 PM »

well "regardless of the action youre doing" would mean that it regens while shooting, which it doesnt without double tap trait, so I dont think you can read too much into written description, maybe dev can tell us, unless you are dev in which case i apologize
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #10 on: September 15, 2014, 07:05:52 PM »

well... i have tested in game, mi AP+ is 6.68  so my total AP 19.18
while moving the counter goes up by 3, and while standing it goes up by 10.

I asume that every half second (? if the description its rigth and the total amount its by second) half of the bonus its added (rounded), so while running its 6.68/2 =3.34 rounded to 3 and while still its 19.18/2=9.59 rounded to 10. So if this its correct that proves that the AP+ works every time.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #11 on: September 15, 2014, 08:34:28 PM »

Snow that was the very first thing I've tested right after the server start, both 1 and 10 agi chars were regaining AP at the same rate while standing.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #12 on: September 15, 2014, 08:47:02 PM »

Snow that was the very first thing I've tested right after the server start, both 1 and 10 agi chars were regaining AP at the same rate while standing.
sorry but this is wrong. bonus AG regen works while standing as well. Another notable thing is that it also works while performing other animations like opening doors.

In any case, on 2238, every char needed ag. Low ag chars couldnt even fire some weapons. Basically, if you plan to deal alot of damage or if you plan to run around alot, get AG. If you prefer standing still then feel free to bruise it. Just as other people have said, it's not that typical Must-have stat anymore but it is in no way underpowered.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #13 on: September 15, 2014, 08:51:13 PM »

Well than i goofed wil all my tests ;D. Then why the heck can I sometimes regen 30 AP per sec right after the combat mode ended? (On the first day, that was when I've tested it.) And I sometimes notice it now. With different agi stats of course.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #14 on: September 15, 2014, 08:52:08 PM »

on the first day, lag might have messed up your experiments.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #15 on: September 15, 2014, 08:54:15 PM »

Eh damn it, that actually sounds legit :(. At least I'm still right that AGI screws up your sprinter perk! ^^.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2014, 01:23:14 AM »

Eh damn it, that actually sounds legit :(. At least I'm still right that AGI screws up your sprinter perk! ^^.

Agility need some buff or little movement speed boost should be good. Look on hth chars, their speed is same as long range fighters and they re no able to chase enemy.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2014, 01:27:15 AM »

I don't need to look I know all about that. Sometimes even voodoo doesn't help because your target is ALSO CARRYING ONE.
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2014, 04:07:00 AM »

what about increasing ap regen+ bonus from AG by 50% (0,44 -> 0,66) ?
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Re: A little and big AGI tweak.
« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2014, 06:01:12 AM »

what about increasing ap regen+ bonus from AG by 50% (0,44 -> 0,66) ?
It could be nice
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