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Character planner (FRF, FoGS)
« on: October 06, 2014, 03:54:35 AM »

Character planner

Character planner is given to public access by Free Reroll Foundation!
This character planner is FoGS! (Free of Gold Sink)

Feedback / bug reports are appreciated.

Spoiler for "load of deprecated theoretical crap about char building":
I will share my personal opinion about character building, basically trying to help out to newbies / small experience groups. In addition, I expect some criticism, so you will be able to see opinions of other build creators.
The only thing I would like to ask: if you criticize - suggest.

I going to discuss only builds for mass pvp, not 1v1 pvp, not scavenging etc.

1. Know your role.
You need to answer questions:
a) What role are you going to have at the battlefield?
b) How will you be better than others in your task?
c) Are you able to work with dedicated leader sharing specialized boosts?

c -- if you are not, than, probably, you need to find one. Else, go with CH 1, at least you'll have the best "not leaded" potential. You can reroll afterwise, having dedicated leader.

2. Know your gun.
Choose your weapon / set of weapons. You mostly interested in range of the gun (determine how far you will able to shoot), but also consider AP cost (the more, the better to take Fast Shot trait), traits, possible perks (sometimes you don't really need to invest 250 in skill), and properties like ability to hex-fire, animation time (don't use Sniper Rifles in "behind-corner" engagement, take a pistol / shotgun with you), area of effect and etc. Also don't forget about weak points (don't shoot with laser at tesla, you'll need something as back-up gun for this situation). Basically, you really want to know as much about your weapon as you can, BUT, corresponding to other weapon classes. Hard work, I know. Don't forget that wakidasi is sneak weapon, bar is small gun, DSR is a big gun -- be sure in your weapon class.

3. Know yourself.
What kind of properties are you going to use the most? Are you going to go for high damage per second / high defense / max range? Meaning, can you shoot without being shoot? Do you want to be useful as medic / scout / tank as well?
This will determine SPECIAL, tagged secondary skills and taken perks. Balanced build are perfectly playable but with universality comes weakness in specifics. If you want to go for tankyness, each perk for DR / healing / defense will accumulate in not-linear way, making it more than just sum of them.

4. Know your leader.
To become more specialized, plan for certain boosts which will give you the max potential. This will take you out from the middle line, making you specialized and strong in something dedicated. Personally I'm trying to plan all builds with charisma 10 to get that maximum. Plan for 3 boosts and think if it's possible to change them for applying in different situation you can get it.

5. Know what to take in when life gets sad.
Most of builds do not require specific drug to be efficient, but you can use some. Some builds could reach its maximum planned potential only drugged. E.g. if you have perception 1, there's not much sense not to use psycho.

6. Use math.
It's the only way to get it perfectly right. You need to count as much values as you can, planned on maximum potential - level 24. So you ought to know levels of your tagged skills, all taken perks and most important derived stats (like maximum range for 95% (90%) of hit chance. Use tools for counting, it's pain without it.

7. Test it out.
Your build requires crash test. Take friends at your platoon base, check damage and result of concrete Build-to-Build fights / situation context fights. Also platoon bases provides personal team pvp, so you don't need to wait (or play at all) zone control, where situation could be not useful for your testing proposes. Also you don't lose gear.

8. Level one build is not level 24 build.
Even if you have planned perfect build, you will probably need to level it up first. Some are harder than others (especially without the leader and having 10 CH). Change your build so you can level up easily, than reroll. Also, come with me and let's cry to devs that leveling takes too much time.

9. Save your build, so you don't need to rebuild it later. Discuss it with your team.

Tips:
1. Forget about realism and names of stats. It's just a math valuable names. Check formulas instead.
2. Don't mess up with Weapon Effective Range (2/3 of weapon range), and Player Effective Range (Distance with max chance to hit). For high skill it's hard to have PER less than WER with SPECIAL penalties (from strength and luck). Use math.
3. Gain Stats are less specific (less effect) than dedicated perks. For specialization, don't take gain stats.

« Last Edit: September 16, 2015, 09:46:06 AM by free rerolls man »
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 07:01:06 PM »

+1

Spoiler for Hiden:
Two weeks ago I've started.. And re-deleted and re-created Sony 17-times in 4 days, from 9-10 level :-) ... Still will have to remake it again. I think this guide will give others an option to perfect their builds in less attempts :-P ...
« Last Edit: October 06, 2014, 07:02:53 PM by Sony »
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2014, 04:44:53 AM »

Added character planner link.
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2014, 10:25:37 AM »

Great! this was much needed
Now i need a full reroll to make my perfect(?) build :(
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2014, 05:39:46 PM »

Thank you, so so so so so much. The wasteland is grateful
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2014, 09:12:23 AM »

Update: AP cost calc, food, bug fixes.
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2014, 02:57:36 PM »

Small guns - sneaker/critical build/sniper
Spoiler for Hiden:

If I had a chance to start completely over I would choose four eyes instead of small frame, so I suggest doing so. Than you can lower ag and add those point/s into PE, since you'll lose 1 point if using four eyes.

Adrenaline rush/quick recovery can be replaced with dodger, depending on your style of play or use BROF to gain more shots with handguns/less ap when using snipers.

If you're planing to do more sneaking than regular shooting - use bloodthirst perk, very useful when attacking 2+ players.

Guns good to use with this build :
DKS,M1C snipers best ones, but any sniper will do
Deagle,14mm,223 pistol - great low AP critical shooters, deagle best imo
Wazikashi blade,needler pistol - your sneaking arsenal

I buffed throwing coz grenades are awesome, if you can't get use to them, there is always good old milkor to solve problems.

If you're going to sneak - use leather jacket/combat/coat
Generally use any of the armors, but if you're going head on metal/combat armor can take a good beating, if shooting from more range, use leather family of armors for benefits or brof,recovery,healing.

Build treated me well, got over 300 kills with it ofc it took some skill and luck, but you can always disappear into thin air when things get tough.

Good luck wastelanders !
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2014, 09:07:17 AM »

Update: chance to hit formula bug fixes.
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2014, 06:46:25 PM »

After the CH patch values are not legit. Update when I find reason to stop procrastinating.
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Re: How to plan your build
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2014, 12:07:00 PM »

Update: bug fixes, LDR update.

Changes: there's no particular reason to max out CH for followers anymore, 2 CH must have for everyone, 7 CH is about optimal.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2014, 12:08:41 PM by paragon »
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2015, 07:07:19 AM »

http://prntscr.com/624cuy
About bugs with planner - at least three guys reported this issues.
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2015, 07:22:28 AM »

Seems like Google drive problem, currently have no idea how to solve it.
You may want to use char planner offline, downloaded the whole folder from https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwKvNDBh2sircWRjcU1tcDY2RTA&usp=drive_web and opening index.html locally
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2015, 09:40:32 AM »

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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2015, 05:47:40 AM »

The problem seems to be connected to being logged in google services and using Chrome/based browsers in the same time. You can try to use other browsers
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #14 on: March 22, 2015, 10:50:29 AM »

Updated LDR base modules values and consider all bonuses as from 10 CH leader (as in game)
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2015, 09:06:24 AM »

update effects:
most drugs have changed
new perks
kamikazeeeeeeeeeeeerror

update tool tips:
hit points = maximum damage taken while conscious
armored hp = mitigated damage taken while conscious
bleed resist = half life in seconds
field medic = i do not even know
faith healer = percent/2hp
hawk eyes


fast metabolism is bugged, and when active, improved homeostasis has no effect

also, please try to remove the colored nuka from the game. thank you =D
« Last Edit: April 02, 2015, 11:03:30 AM by twat »
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2015, 10:01:15 AM »

update effects:
most drugs have changed
new perks
kamikazeeeeeeeeeeeerror

update tool tips:
hit points = maximum damage taken while conscious
armored hp = mitigated damage taken while conscious
bleed resist = half life in seconds
field medic = i do not even know
faith healer = 4:2hp
hawk eyes


fast metabolism is bugged, and when active, improved homeostasis has no effect

also, please try to remove the colored nuka from the game. thank you =D

colored nukas epic , why u wanna get rif od em ? plus faith healer is 3 :1 hp imo instead of 2:1 , it could even be 4 : 1
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Re: How to plan your build [+ character planner]
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2015, 11:05:37 AM »

I do not need nuka.. and it seems early to add another class of drug when food still needs work?
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Re: Character planner
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2015, 10:26:44 AM »

Oh my char planner is gone. Fortunately we got free rerolls else we'd be totally fucked.
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Re: Character planner
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2015, 01:09:00 PM »

Now thats just petty.

BRB going back to good old graphing paper.
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