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Stration

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Restoring the original Fallout interface
« on: February 24, 2014, 11:23:05 AM »

Is there a way to switch to the original Fallout user interface?

Here's a picture of a portion of it in case you don't know what I'm talking about:



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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #1 on: February 24, 2014, 11:27:56 AM »

It's not really that easy since we didn't just modify the art but also added more functions like the debuff notifications and the AP display has also been changed. It would be a lot of work to try to get soemthing decent using the old art.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #2 on: February 24, 2014, 11:46:48 AM »

It's not really that easy since we didn't just modify the art but also added more functions like the debuff notifications and the AP display has also been changed. It would be a lot of work to try to get soemthing decent using the old art.
Well, that sucks.

Could you at least tell me how to turn on the message box?



As you can see, it doesn't display on my screen for some reason.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2014, 12:13:24 PM »

Hum. What screen resolution are you using?
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2014, 12:14:07 PM »

oh man, it looks like soemthing went wrong wiht your client, you miss the actual interface there. Can you come to irc #AshesOfPhoenix so we can sort that out?
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2014, 12:16:51 PM »

It looks like you only have the non-hardcoded parts of the GUI visible. Try pressing f4. If that hides the stuff that you see now (the green AP bar etc), try shift+f4 or alt+f4 (no, that doesn't close the client).
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2014, 12:54:52 PM »

Hi, i got that problem in 800 x 600 resolution. i switched to full screen and the interface works fine
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2014, 01:23:08 PM »

Hum. What screen resolution are you using?

800x600, but I tried 1024x768 as well and it only made the problem worse.

It looks like you only have the non-hardcoded parts of the GUI visible. Try pressing f4. If that hides the stuff that you see now (the green AP bar etc), try shift+f4 or alt+f4 (no, that doesn't close the client).
You mean there's more than just the message box missing?

I tried pressing the buttons, but it didn't solve the issue.

Fullscreen mode didn't help either.

I think I'll re-download the client and give it another try later on.

If I manage to figure out what the problem is, I'll let you know.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2014, 01:58:34 PM »

I just tried 1024x768 and it works fine for me, and afaik lesser resolutions are not supported.

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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2014, 04:08:47 PM »

You can also try to clear the cache and see if that helps. I'm surprised f4 didn't solve it though tbh. What happens when you press f4? It should at the very least toggle the visibility of the green AP bar.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2014, 03:28:56 AM »

You can also try to clear the cache and see if that helps. I'm surprised f4 didn't solve it though tbh. What happens when you press f4? It should at the very least toggle the visibility of the green AP bar.
I strongly suspect that deleting the cache files that came with the client might be what's caused the issue in the first place. I'm using WindowsXP and so in order to get the game to work *at all* I had to follow the instructions from http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=476.0.

When I press F4, the UI gets turned off, just as you'd expect. If I then press the button again, it brings the UI back, but the missing elements are still (not) there.

The game doesn't seem to properly recognize the screen resolution I'm using.

Here's what the main menu looks for me when I turn on the game (800x600):

http://oi62.tinypic.com/15zi237.jpg

The message in the lower left part of the screen seems to be a few words short (unsurprisingly), but it's not too hard to figure out what it says.

And here's a screenshot of what I get when I press F1 in-game:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/2bs9l2.jpg

There's obviously more missing here than just a few UI elements.

The higher I set the screen resolution, the more elements fail to display; additionally, if I use anything above 800x600, I'm completely unable to scroll the screen horizontally.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2014, 04:22:37 AM »

Resolutions of 800x600 aren't supported with our client, so it's not really a surprise that things are missing there. The rest of the GUI is probably drawn outside of the screen where you can't see them. Even if they weren't, they wouldn't properly fit in the 800 width space that is available. You need at least 1024.

What is surprising though is that you see even fewer things when you use a higher resolution. What's the maximum your monitor can support? Can you take a screenshot of what that looks like in game?
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2014, 05:36:57 AM »

Resolutions of 800x600 aren't supported with our client, so it's not really a surprise that things are missing there. The rest of the GUI is probably drawn outside of the screen where you can't see them. Even if they weren't, they wouldn't properly fit in the 800 width space that is available. You need at least 1024.

What is surprising though is that you see even fewer things when you use a higher resolution. What's the maximum your monitor can support? Can you take a screenshot of what that looks like in game?
2048x1536 is my maximum resolution, and switching to it technically solved the problem (I could see all the elements that should be there, including the message box), but try and play on a 17'' monitor set to 2048x1536 - as you could imagine, it's not really possible (everything is so small!).

It prompted me to try a number of different resolutions though, and to experiment with other options, and it seems that in order to get the game to display properly, I need to use a resolution of no less than 1024x768 *and* to have fullscreen enabled at the same time.

However, I still have the issue with bugged edge scrolling. If I drag the cursor to the edge of the screen, it usually has no effect, so I need to use arrows instead which is a pain in the ass. Curiously, I have no such problem in 800x600. If you can think of any possible solutions, please let me know.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2014, 06:47:02 AM »

The only thing I can think of that you can try is to press f8, it toggles mouse scrolling. You shouldn't have to play in fullscreen mode to see all the elements properly. I usually play in 1024*768 (on a 17" screen as well) and in windowed mode, and that works fine. I'm on windows 7 though.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2014, 10:46:11 AM »

You can't go under 1024*768 px, and on contrary it's not normal if it's not displayed on that resolution. Most of the screens were designed at start to support 800*600 but the main interface was not possible in so low resolution.

windowed/fullscreen doesn't matter. You also should be able to play in every resolution you want (even totally custom/random size) unless it's 1024px width.

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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #15 on: February 25, 2014, 04:04:33 PM »

Is there a way to switch to the original Fallout user interface?

Here's a picture of a portion of it in case you don't know what I'm talking about:


If you still needs it: http://fodev.net/forum/index.php/topic,13713.0.html
With some tweaks it should run fine on AoP (idk if there was some changes in interface specially for AoP, but it shouldn't be hard to find out and get it fully working)
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2014, 04:23:34 PM »

A lot of changes actually, reworking the old interface would take much time I think.
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Re: Restoring the original Fallout interface
« Reply #17 on: February 26, 2014, 04:52:48 AM »

Yup and server side elements will never be movable.


Even, if it's works with the actual resolution you use, if it's not let us know what is your resolution, OS, and what client (fonline.exe or fonlinegl.exe) you are running.
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