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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2014, 07:11:50 PM »

Doesn't matter if you play vs 'real PvP players' cause with 10CH you have over 100% crit agi res anyway, regardless of 1AG and paperwall. You don't even need the crit agi perk.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2014, 07:23:32 PM »


Learn to read.


No, but can't you clearly see that I'm a mechanic noob who isn't a "real pvper"? The only reason I made this post is because i'm confused about my sexuality, and has nothing to do with flaws in the mechanic, furthermore AG 1 builds should be buffed, maybe give us an inverted critical agility mechanic, where it gets higher for lower agility scores, because i'm scared and don't understand things. /s

I'm sick and tired

Then shut up and go to sleep. 8)
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #22 on: October 14, 2014, 07:59:42 AM »

The harshest part of this imo is for people who took action boy, do or die and or psychopath.

Those perks are maluses to the current sprinter mechanic, when they should be bonuses.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #23 on: October 14, 2014, 08:08:27 AM »

Doesn't matter if you play vs 'real PvP players' cause with 10CH you have over 100% crit agi res anyway, regardless of 1AG and paperwall. You don't even need the crit agi perk.

Its because the server was advertised as no stat will be useless, while leadership modules actually can make bunch of stats useless by just investing in CH. But far as I know this is subject for a change.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #24 on: October 14, 2014, 08:59:23 AM »

Doesn't matter if you play vs 'real PvP players' cause with 10CH you have over 100% crit agi res anyway, regardless of 1AG and paperwall. You don't even need the crit agi perk.

Its because the server was advertised as no stat will be useless, while leadership modules actually can make bunch of stats useless by just investing in CH. But far as I know this is subject for a change.

I do hope so, I like that CH is effective, but rendering other stats ineffective is not good.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #25 on: October 14, 2014, 09:04:12 AM »

Reading this I thought: "making AG movement speed connected with some small rates"? Like 10% difference between 1 and 10 AG.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #26 on: October 14, 2014, 09:08:29 AM »

I would love that TBH even if scaled to +0.25 or +0.10 for every 2 AG points.

In combination with armor bonuses and maluses you would end up with some nice variations and sacrifices in movement speed and melee's choosing between speed and endurance would be drastically different in battle.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #27 on: October 14, 2014, 09:27:35 AM »

What about this: you get an movement speed bonus based on you AP+ and remaining AP.
Formula will be (100-remaining AP) * Extra AP/2
If you have 4.04 you will gain 20.02% at 0 AP, and 40% if you have 8 extra AP

So if you have high AP Regen the bonus last shorter but it will be higher.

BTW: i would love to have AG conected with movement speed, even if the increase its very low
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2014, 09:59:48 AM »

2 mAdman

Наноха, ты?
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2014, 11:17:47 AM »

What about this: you get an movement speed bonus based on you AP+ and remaining AP.
Formula will be (100-remaining AP) * Extra AP/2
If you have 4.04 you will gain 20.02% at 0 AP, and 40% if you have 8 extra AP

So if you have high AP Regen the bonus last shorter but it will be higher.

BTW: i would love to have AG conected with movement speed, even if the increase its very low

That is an interesting approach, though low AG characters will still be slightly advantaged in that they can maintain it for longer, but it is a different and interesting idea, I kind of like it. (Unfortunately people with psychopath still lose out on potential move speed when they kill a player, so killing and running isn't as effective for them, where it should be).


2 Duke, sorry I can only read english currently, i ran that through google translate, but to no avail. :)

As a side note it would be awesome to see leather armor get a move speed buff trait too, say on mk 2 or above it gets sprinter, where as leather jackets get sprinter at trait 1 and again (to sprinter x2) as the 4th or 5th armor trait (on CLJ or CLC).
« Last Edit: October 14, 2014, 11:35:18 AM by mAdman »
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2015, 09:35:20 PM »

The harshest part of this imo is for people who took action boy, do or die and or psychopath.

Those perks are maluses to the current sprinter mechanic, when they should be bonuses.

this ap should be 'dumped' into stimpacks or other combat actions bro. I love sprinter. movement speed from leadership needs a nerf. AOP needs no more variation in movement speed, at least right now. call sprinter 'freedom of movement' or 'graceful garb' ....
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2015, 03:41:22 AM »

hmm slight rework will be better
if ap<1/3 u get speed bonus AGI/3  and it last for Agi/2 seconds
sprinter can be reactivated only after full ap regen e.g 100

numbers are figurative
« Last Edit: January 14, 2015, 03:43:04 AM by nailbrain »
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2015, 03:59:15 AM »

hmm slight rework will be better
if ap<1/3 u get speed bonus AGI/3  and it last for Agi/2 seconds
sprinter can be reactivated only after full ap regen e.g 100
numbers are figurative

IMO the whole sprinter perk should be reversed. If your AP pool is full to the brim, you must run much faster than the guy whose AP pool is low. Think of it as "running out of breath". A guy that just did 2-4 swings with a giant sledgehammer shouldn't be able to outrun a guy who didn't.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2015, 04:22:30 AM »

The opposite shouldn't happen either, than you can't run away from someone who can hit you when he reaches you as he is full of AP. At the moment you dump your AP to catch up with someone running but with low AP, he still has a chance to run away.

Melee sneakers will be OP running like that full of AP in core btw :)
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2015, 09:07:20 AM »

as I said, complete revamp of movement speed is planned out already, it has just not been on the agenda recently. Will discuss it with cirn later.

We might test a couple of new mechanics and changes "soon" so we get a feel for how it works out ingame.
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Re: Inverting the sprinter perk
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2015, 02:45:00 PM »



If i cant go fast anymore after the rework i will find out where you and cirn0 live
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