FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
General section => Game Tips & Guides => Topic started by: scabs on January 08, 2015, 11:02:15 PM
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since we have factions, we're automatically allied with other players who've chosen the same faction, from what I've read.
how prolific is teamkilling?
do factions only exist in name only, and most just disregard the faction system's penalties?
what are the penalties faced if you teamkill?
the wiki just says "you loose more points", but doesn't state how many or if it's a significant amount
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TK'ing was a severe problem in this FO, don't know if it stayed the same after a couple of reputation system fixes.
You lose reputation for each tick of damage as well as for kills. The penalty grows gradually with each relapse withing a time limit. (i.e. If you shot somebody today, you will not lose more rep if you shoot some1 tomorrow. However you will lose a ton when you shoot somebody continiously and score a kill.)
Since you can't just flood NPCs with relics anymore, that penalty has become severe. (after losing too much rep. you will get expelled from your faction, losing pretty much everything)
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Faction don't exist in name only.
Early in the cession, there were some trolls, but they were the minority. Most players helped each other, or at least, ignored each other.
Late in the cession, there no TK trolls (but still melee sneak trolls), and most players were together for all activities (at least amongs lawyers), or at least, helped each others.
The faction system worked, for the most part.
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It obviously worked better when there were fewer people (and when those who didn't like it left for other Fonline). The fixes on losing rep and not being able to use relics anymore would have had a lot of effect too earlier in session. You lose something like 160 rep first shot, then x2 each successive time (320, 640, 1280 etc). But more than the penaly, I think it was because people wanted to play together instead of trolling like kids ;D
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I think it was because people wanted to play together instead of trolling like kids ;D
TK'ing during server peak was never about trolling. It was always about "that guy came into our zc naked, he died and enemy got the points, so now we're losing for absolutely no reason".
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I'm referring to the current situation, as there were a few people (well, 1 in lawyer) who liked to attack teammates even during ZC, once making a ZC lost as there were injuries and AP lost ???
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It is also welcome that losing noobs don't make you lose ZC.
Initially it was point & timer. If you lose your noobs near the end of the timer, the opposing team could win the ZC even if you kicked them a few second later.
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I dont know about other factions, but I never saw any teamkilling in family. (except for once, when we thought this guy was a spy.)
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I dont know about other factions, but I never saw any teamkilling in family. (except for once, when we thought this guy was a spy.)
Best excuse for TK :)
Have to agree Family must had the lowest numbers of TKs when the server was full.
Now I doubt that any teamkilling happens anymore with such a low population.
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There's a lot of friendly fire in Vtec when everyone is just standing around doing nothing when there's no enemy in sight. All fun and games really.
I can remember only one true VTEC teamkill. In which I was the executioner. We use it as a Bogeyman nowadays; behave or we'll 'send you to the Family'. It works.
I dont know about other factions, but I never saw any teamkilling in family. (except for once, when we thought this guy was a spy.)
Best excuse for TK :)
Have to agree Family must had the lowest numbers of TKs when the server was full.
Now I doubt that any teamkilling happens anymore with such a low population.
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I dont know about other factions, but I never saw any teamkilling in family. (except for once, when we thought this guy was a spy.)
There was a incident I was involved in when a buddy died in Poly, I stood by his body and then some dude from the Family (a pole, I think) just looted the dead guy's stuff even through I told him it was from a ally. I then pursued him and left him with negative HPs, but he regenerated and ran away again. Golden Geckos got him in the end, through, and my friend got his stuff back.
I think the whole thing was a misunderstanding because he had bad english.
But besides that, I don't think Family ever had any teamkilling. We were too busy and having too much fun running guerilla deathsquads.
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as was mentioned PK was sometimes necesity for the old ZC system but of now it is pointless
so if there are some PK it will be driven by personal grudges or just trolling
and currently in AOP most valuable resource is soldiers
average skilled soldier with at least some sense of teamplay is more worth than overloaded container with top gear
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Not pointless yet. People without armor still joining ZC, having ~1 level. What can you expect from them? Open lockers, doors giving away your position, scream help and making your weak-will teammates to leave guarding positions, possibly being pulled in a CC trap, stand in line of fire doing 0 damage and preventing you to do damage, block the doors, loot what they didn't kill while you fight, and our favorite, being a spy.
TK is necessary.
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well explaing dat to someone before ZC will fix the problems instead of TK
if he still does dat kind of shit it is obviously troll or provocator
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It didn't happen in early days server.
You couldn't enter during a ZC if you were lower than lvl 6.
And afterward, there were too few people to afford to kick someone.
Anyway, TK without warning shouldn't happen, no matter the reason.
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I think the whole thing was a misunderstanding because he had bad english.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in v-tec being able to speak English well enough to explain people that they're doing wrong and going to die. At least, I didn't see any successful understanding of what we said. Right, Caboose?
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I think the whole thing was a misunderstanding because he had bad english.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in v-tec being able to speak English well enough to explain people that they're doing wrong and going to die. At least, I didn't see any successful understanding of what we said. Right, Caboose?
Wrong
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Define your meanings of team and fun.
For me someone harmful to success isn't in my team.
And losing cuz of such people isn't fun.
Until they are willing to learn and get better. But in v-tec we don't speak English well enough to persuade them...
Or they come persuaded already somehow. And become main team in 5 hours of gameplay.
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Once you'll finally understand that different people prefer different playstyles.
For me game is competition. And yeah, I don't like to lose without a good reason.
I like cooperation and communication with voice. I like to share information to my team which they get benefit from. I learn how to play well / speak not-primary language (people can't speak in combat even playing fonline for years) / even lead and god damn microcontrol people in the same time.
I can't trust people which voice I don't hear, can't rely on them.
For you it's something else.
So now we are in one faction, and somehow in the one zone, which is contested. I came to get fun from fighting and winning, you came to get fun from different things.
If I let you live, you'll let me down, and I won't get fun.
If I kill you, you won't get fun.
So what is the solution?
And I have to say again, my English obviously sux. And you don't speak it at all. And even more, you don't even care about my opinion, cuz why would you, right?
I even dare to think only voice comms can make Fonliners really engaged with the gameplay. I've found people I respect, which I'd like to call friends IRL, and for me obviously this wouldn't happen without my attitude about how should I play the game.
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I think the whole thing was a misunderstanding because he had bad english.
Unfortunately, I don't know anyone in v-tec being able to speak English well enough to explain people that they're doing wrong and going to die. At least, I didn't see any successful understanding of what we said. Right, Caboose?
Wrong
Heck Paragon, I'm English and I don't speak English well enough to explain to someone that they are going to die. TK is necessary.
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So just now began this game with a friend.
We met some players who helped us at first.
Then just got immediately teamkilled.
I've played other FOnlines before, so I can understand the every-man-for-himself mindset, but I just hoped for better.
Maybe we joined the wrong faction or something.
Anyways, thanks to those who helped us out at first, I did appreciate that.
I'm just too tired, and getting too old for this sort of thing.
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So just now began this game with a friend.
We met some players who helped us at first.
Then just got immediately teamkilled.
I've played other FOnlines before, so I can understand the every-man-for-himself mindset, but I just hoped for better.
Maybe we joined the wrong faction or something.
Anyways, thanks to those who helped us out at first, I did appreciate that.
I'm just too tired, and getting too old for this sort of thing.
which faction ?
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So just now began this game with a friend.
We met some players who helped us at first.
Then just got immediately teamkilled.
I've played other FOnlines before, so I can understand the every-man-for-himself mindset, but I just hoped for better.
Maybe we joined the wrong faction or something.
Anyways, thanks to those who helped us out at first, I did appreciate that.
I'm just too tired, and getting too old for this sort of thing.
which faction ?
from my personal experience i'm 85% sure it was Lawyers
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Totally unlikely. We are pretty open to newcomers, and share a lot of with them.
Which character killed which character ?
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scabs bro, you get tk'd if you loot a teammates gear and then don't respond when they question you about it
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scabs bro, you get tk'd if you loot a teammates gear and then don't respond when they question you about it
I haven't seen this happen since the first couple weeks of the session.
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So just now began this game with a friend.
We met some players who helped us at first.
Then just got immediately teamkilled.
I've played other FOnlines before, so I can understand the every-man-for-himself mindset, but I just hoped for better.
Maybe we joined the wrong faction or something.
Anyways, thanks to those who helped us out at first, I did appreciate that.
I'm just too tired, and getting too old for this sort of thing.
Haven't been shot once in the wild except for ZC. Same faction killing has always been a taboo as far as I've seen, everything solved with words Even factionless are friendly and help you out (ITT: Breaker)
So Ai dun neuw wutchu meen.
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So just now began this game with a friend.
We met some players who helped us at first.
Then just got immediately teamkilled.
I've played other FOnlines before, so I can understand the every-man-for-himself mindset, but I just hoped for better.
Maybe we joined the wrong faction or something.
Anyways, thanks to those who helped us out at first, I did appreciate that.
I'm just too tired, and getting too old for this sort of thing.
Haven't been shot once in the wild except for ZC. Same faction killing has always been a taboo as far as I've seen, everything solved with words Even factionless are friendly and help you out (ITT: Breaker)
So Ai dun neuw wutchu meen.
that's becuase you recently joined this game, back when we had an averag eof 100 players, Teamkilling was really common
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Read the rules newbies, TKing is not againt them.
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must tk to make the ratgod happy
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Read the rules newbies, TKing is not againt them.
Only pieces of shit do it though. Endorsed or not its not smiled upon.
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Read the rules newbies, TKing is not againt them.
Only pieces of shit do it though. Endorsed or not its not smiled upon.
Get a grip mate, wasteland is harsh and all that jazz. Sometimes you gotta make the tough decisions. Think outside the box.
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Read the rules newbies, TKing is not againt them.
Only pieces of shit do it though. Endorsed or not its not smiled upon.
Get a grip mate, wasteland is harsh and all that jazz. Sometimes you gotta make the tough decisions. Think outside the box.
In all of my time playing AoP there was never a time when someone needed to be TK'ed. I legitimately can't find a reason to do it other than superiority complex.
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Read the rules newbies, TKing is not againt them.
Only pieces of shit do it though. Endorsed or not its not smiled upon.
Get a grip mate, wasteland is harsh and all that jazz. Sometimes you gotta make the tough decisions. Think outside the box.
In all of my time playing AoP there was never a time when someone needed to be TK'ed. I legitimately can't find a reason to do it other than superiority complex.
Well, believe it or not, some people like to play bully gangsters. But yeah I agree with you, there's no valid reason for TK other than superiority complex.
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Read the rules newbies, TKing is not againt them.
Only pieces of shit do it though. Endorsed or not its not smiled upon.
Get a grip mate, wasteland is harsh and all that jazz. Sometimes you gotta make the tough decisions. Think outside the box.
In all of my time playing AoP there was never a time when someone needed to be TK'ed. I legitimately can't find a reason to do it other than superiority complex.
Well, believe it or not, some people like to play bully gangsters. But yeah I agree with you, there's no valid reason for TK other than superiority complex.
Member of your team has become rabid and must be put down. CASE AND POINT: SCIENTIST. EATDIX.
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some twat took the gud loot. It will not be raining gear after the wipe
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But yeah I agree with you, there's no valid reason for TK other than superiority complex.
I take it that you've never met Blindman Bill?
Back when AoP had a healthy amount of players, there were a bunch of v-tech who made it their mission to come to fights bluesuit and loot your anamies as you killed them. I have only seen blindman bill wearing something other than a sandrobe/bluesuit once, and he was sitting in base spinning in circles with gear he had just taken from a fight, and bragging about how much loot he had.
There are players out there who's main mission is to piss you off. To say there is no reason to ever TK is naive.
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But yeah I agree with you, there's no valid reason for TK other than superiority complex.
I take it that you've never met Blindman Bill?
Back when AoP had a healthy amount of players, there were a bunch of v-tech who made it their mission to come to fights bluesuit and loot your anamies as you killed them. I have only seen blindman bill wearing something other than a sandrobe/bluesuit once, and he was sitting in base spinning in circles with gear he had just taken from a fight, and bragging about how much loot he had.
There are players out there who's main mission is to piss you off. To say there is no reason to ever TK is naive.
Well I guess many of us never had the fortune to meet these wonderful human beings. Could be the factions and the times I played. Most of the players I've met in AoP have been alright people. The prospect hadn't really crossed my mind. Even so it should take a lot, like what you were describing, to warrant a good wasting. I've found allies in people who have pissed me off before because I wasn't quick with the trigger.
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>2016
>not playing on the chinese aop servers
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