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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2014, 03:20:21 AM »

Well, maybe I should restart then :D
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #21 on: September 16, 2014, 03:23:10 AM »

Well, maybe I should restart then :D
Don't, until AC will be properly tested and thought through. There is no point in lvl-ing HtH right now.
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2014, 04:42:04 AM »

Well, with that reroll update thing, i think i'm going to low my PE from 6 to 4.

But i'm still hesitating :

Should I put these 2 points in Int to reach 10 ( i'm gifted & no skilled), or in Luck for better defense ( 6 atm, looks a little low...)?
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2014, 04:44:08 AM »

You should create another character ;D. As John told me, melee is considered a secondary case, which basically means you should always use a gun when melee'ing. (coz it sucks in every situation possible, other than when opponents will try to hug you).
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2014, 04:53:21 AM »

Disapointing  :'(

Melee is so funny comparativly to other fightstyles... Got a big gunner too, it's boring as fuck, exept with minigun/rl but the cost ammo cost is a pain in the ass..
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2014, 04:55:36 AM »

Yeah that's the problem... Well let's see if implemention of AC changed anything.
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2014, 05:02:26 AM »

So ,Int or Luck?  ;D

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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2014, 05:03:24 AM »

Take voodoo.  Get both quick recovery perks, much crit resistance, etc  wear leather jacket, combat lj, or coat. 

Murder everyone, and piss on their corpses if they tried to cheese you by running away.
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2014, 05:04:04 AM »

stopped reading on take voodoo, say hello to 100% knockout on each shot!
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #29 on: September 18, 2014, 05:14:11 AM »

Voodoo ony for chasing isolated foes :)
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2014, 05:21:18 AM »

stopped reading on take voodoo, say hello to 100% knockout on each shot!
Yeah okay keep telling yourself that.

Keep in mind you do get normal damage resistance buff alongside it.  and with quick recoveries what few knock outs that occur last 1 second.

And even then they don't occur often if you got the appropriate perks.

Defending statistics
The statistic that is rolled against to apply the effect depends on the effect:

Strength - Knockout, Weapon drop, AP drain
Perception - Blind, Disorient
Endurance - Cripple legs and arms
Charisma - None
Intelligence - None
Agility - Partial Armor Bypass, Knockdown
Luck - None

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Get high strength, high agility, high endurance.  but of course we already know this.  Take man of steel.  Naturally.  Critical Strength, both quick recovery, toughness, adrenaline rush.  These are the perks that I took to resist damage and critical strikes, and I am pretty much never knocked out.  Ever.  Hell for the longest time i hadn't even taken critical strength, and I still exceedingly rarely got knocked out, and even if it DOES happen it lasts for a short enough amount of time that it's like a regular knock down.  Also with the second quick recovery you can get over voodoo's ending effect of suppression 20% faster, etc.  Of course if voodoo is wearing off your enemies should be dead anyways.  If they aren't you're incompetent or dead.

also keep in mind that the massive speed increase from leather jackets and voodoo makes up for the down time from what 5% chance of getting knocked out you have.

@Fayfay Voodoo is amazing for fighting even against a small group by yourself as you can easily outrun them and thus perform brutal hit and run tactics.  But I don't know what the fuck you guys are expecting, a rambo with a sledgehammer?  Numbers fuckin matter and that isn't going to change, but voodoo is amazing for close combat characters if they build right.
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #31 on: September 18, 2014, 05:24:56 AM »

MickDick
Oh, I'm sorry, keep thinking that Critical *stat* is going to help you ;DDD.
95% crit STR\END = no difference, even with perks. (was tested in CAmk2, which has no "Paperwall").
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Re: Need Melee build ASAP
« Reply #32 on: September 18, 2014, 05:31:56 AM »

Then you are saying that the perk is broken?  That the formula is broken for resisting criticals is broken? What?

if that's true then it should and probably will be fixed anyways, thus my point is still relevant, in due time.

In my own experience, I very rarely am knocked out, and what few times it happens lasts for such a short amount of time, coupled with voodoo and sprinter perk it's like a bump in the road.  Thus I am no less wrong from my own experience.  The game is after all chance based, and I suppose we could attribute it to that unless there really is something I am missing here.
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