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[faopcurious]

I notice a lot of people are using this plugin which takes away the walls.  But I think it looks ugly, it puts hexes everywhere.
Is there a plugin to just make the walls semi transparent like when you are standing next to them?
OR is there a way I can just edit the FRM wall files in photoshop, and change the alpha?  Thanks.  I am a plugin noob.

I assume these plugins/mods are allowed because I know people using them.  Even though in my personal opinion they should not be allowed, but if you can't beat em join em ^_^.

These plugins would explain why when I hide loot behind walls they disappear anyway XD.

[John Porno]

Basically, all vanilla art files, Master and critter.dat, are saved as .frm and the serverside protos call for a .frm. There is no way to add transparency to a .frm, it would first need to be converted into .png with a textfile, a .fofrm added which takes are of the offset.

In order to add transparency to walls by exchanging files, we would first have to repack all of the (copyrighted) fallout files as pngs. As you can see it's not just a lot of legwork but also questionable.

Another option might be tinkering with the "egg", which is the transparent egg-shaped area you get when you stand behind walls. Koniko would have some more info on it, iirc it's a file in the client that you can make bigger to increase egg size. I dont know if it's possible to make a half transparent egg and then make that really big.

Finally, I cant say much about scripting a transparency for walls like the ~roof command but as you can see here it's sadly not as easy as replacing some wall files.

[faopcurious]

Ah, do you know where this file is, and what is it called? or I need to ask koniko?

[Kurwier]

its possible by scripting i think , u just wud have to give dem pixels de blue rgb information kek , in original fallout there are transparent frms by this method i think

[Wipe]

Files editing is for peasants and not needed at all, including egg thing.

[cirn0]

Its true

[faopcurious]

People are using mods that get rid of walls completely, I just want to alpha them so I have an equal chance to find loot behind walls, and see people hiding.  The egg thing seems like a nice solution.

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

http://forum.fonline2.com/index.php?topic=12838.0

Fuggen devs and their coding powers 

Aaayyyyyy wipe wanna share that effect file 

[Teela]

People are using mods that get rid of walls completely, I just want to alpha them so I have an equal chance to find loot behind walls, and see people hiding.  The egg thing seems like a nice solution.

You won't see people hiding with transparant/no walls. A quick guide on how to mod wall (or AOE for that matter) graphics on wiki would be nice. Stashed loot and a slight advantage in window fights, imo, still doesn't weigh up to the sheer ugliness and the total disregard for all the hard work our mappers did. But everyone should decide for themselves.

N.B. This transparent walls thing is even uglier than no walls.

[PusiteGA]

Can you make transparent walls but only in player FoV

[Kurwier]

walls roof shud be serverside imo , nowalls no roofs transparent walls and roof looks ugly as fock

[Stem Sunders]

I just cant understand why anybody would gimp their game in such a way. Even for the bit of hidden loot it might bring your way.

Its so incredibly, ugly.

[faopcurious]

I just cant understand why anybody would gimp their game in such a way. Even for the bit of hidden loot it might bring your way.

Its so incredibly, ugly.

I knowwwww, thats why I wanted transparent walls instead of the ugly no wall hex mod. 

[Perteks]

I just cant understand why anybody would gimp their game in such a way. Even for the bit of hidden loot it might bring your way.

Its so incredibly, ugly.

For combat purpose? Easier friendly player healing etc?

[S.T.A.L.K.E.R]

For combat purpose? Easier friendly player healing etc?

First aiding teammates was adjusted a little bit here. It's "easier" to FA teammates cause contour will show when you have the yellow circle for FA/Doc/Defib

Just modifying the egg will do for me

[paragon]

People are using mods that get rid of walls completely, I just want to alpha them so I have an equal chance to find loot behind walls, and see people hiding.  The egg thing seems like a nice solution.

It's not that hard to make without developers at all. You need a graphical tool which can modify bunch of files with simple effects, e.g. transparency. I didn't search for, but I believe there should be several out there. The hard part is too choose which files exactly you need to modify. I would extract file names from already existent modes like one in off-topic discussion with similar name and use them to find files you need to modify, it would cover 90% of such files. This condition makes command line tool preferable.

On second thought, some of files could be in god damned fo format. will make it harder with tools.

[faopcurious]

People are using mods that get rid of walls completely, I just want to alpha them so I have an equal chance to find loot behind walls, and see people hiding.  The egg thing seems like a nice solution.

It's not that hard to make without developers at all. You need a graphical tool which can modify bunch of files with simple effects, e.g. transparency. I didn't search for, but I believe there should be several out there. The hard part is too choose which files exactly you need to modify. I would extract file names from already existent modes like one in off-topic discussion with similar name and use them to find files you need to modify, it would cover 90% of such files. This condition makes command line tool preferable.

On second thought, some of files could be in god damned fo format. will make it harder with tools.

I thought john explained why that was not such a good idea?  Koniko has been offline on irc or I would have asked him about the egg.