FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
General section => General Discussions => Topic started by: PusiteGA on April 30, 2016, 03:22:28 PM
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So from reading main page will there be another wipe do to alot broken stuff?
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hijacked your thread and added a poll
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The economy is irreparably damaged I believe, and would prefer a simple item-only wipe. While it is true that the gear most have will be devalued with the release of the higher tiers, the mass amounts of currency will not.
Gear is easy to come by in Phoenix, and honestly, the average player will not be missing much.
I should mention, and this should piss some of you off as well, some people abused some oversights to get mass quantities of caps, and due to the mass amounts of GLOBAL_KURWA with the factionless, some people in factions got tens of thousands of faction currency for free as well. Enough to "live on" for quite a while.
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Again problems with the economy. >:(
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(http://i.imgur.com/4DL2CEo.jpg)
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2nd option best way to go
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The economy is irreparably damaged I believe, and would prefer a simple item-only wipe. While it is true that the gear most have will be devalued with the release of the higher tiers, the mass amounts of currency will not.
Gear is easy to come by in Phoenix, and honestly, the average player will not be missing much.
I should mention, and this should piss some of you off as well, some people abused some oversights to get mass quantities of caps, and due to the mass amounts of GLOBAL_KURWA with the factionless, some people in factions got tens of thousands of faction currency for free as well. Enough to "live on" for quite a while.
yes.
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Suuuure, if you are a small gunner there is tons of loot, like 4 guns per square inch. Bit if you are melee or big guns good luck.
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Suuuure, if you are a small gunner there is tons of loot, like 4 guns per square inch. Bit if you are melee or big guns good luck.
Which is addressed with the tech advancing to last season's guns.
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Suuuure, if you are a small gunner there is tons of loot, like 4 guns per square inch. Bit if you are melee or big guns good luck.
Which is addressed with the tech advancing to last season's guns.
melee selection was fucking horseshit last season too though
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Suuuure, if you are a small gunner there is tons of loot, like 4 guns per square inch. Bit if you are melee or big guns good luck.
Which is addressed with the tech advancing to last season's guns.
melee selection was fucking horseshit last season too though
You joking ? We had ripper and ripper and ripper and mpf and ripper.
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Do it like Rust, and wipe every 2 weeks. But keep tech levels unless 1 faction is just dominating.
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For item wipe I completely agree and make easier to lvl up so you can pvp faster ;)
I got 68K of faction caps and I didnt do much zone control except killing some nonames. I didnt try to exploit anything so I can only guess how much ppl who exploited have ;)
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Suuuure, if you are a small gunner there is tons of loot, like 4 guns per square inch. Bit if you are melee or big guns good luck.
Which is addressed with the tech advancing to last season's guns.
melee selection was fucking horseshit last season too though
You joking ? We had ripper and ripper and ripper and mpf and ripper.
And super sledge, damn that thing was fun.
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If developers plan to wipe items, hopefully it's gonna happen soon. The situation is getting worse and worse.
P.s. I vote for a whole server wipe. Many players are extremely high level due to starting bugs, and in a server which only way to level up is to be pushed into fighting in the core, it's pretty fucked. Server right now looks more beta than it was on first session.
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Server right now looks more beta than it was on first session.
I was thinking the same thing, but was not going to say anything :X
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If developers plan to wipe items, hopefully it's gonna happen soon. The situation is getting worse and worse.
P.s. I vote for a whole server wipe. Many players are extremely high level due to starting bugs, and in a server which only way to level up is to be pushed into fighting in the core, it's pretty fucked. Server right now looks more beta than it was on first session.
I agree.
P.s. I haven't read the whole thing - too much text, next time give images for me <3.
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It's only been 1 day from the initial wipe, would change almost nothing to a good 60% of server because they havent even passed level 9+-
I'm gonna put up my arguements on why an Item wipe won't solve some issues;
Item wipe would not remove the levels players gained from bugs. In most cases I wouldnt care and say that everyone will be at level 24+ soon enough. Well, that's total bullshit. Pardon my french.
Players can only level-up within the Core which is pretty fucked. Reasons of it being fucked:
1. You only gain exp from killing critters / Reading books / Scavenging / Crafting.
2. You can't preform #1 due to being swarmed or killed by some level 26 player which is only feeding the high level players with, yours truely, caps/exp.
So hey, anyone can hit level 24, after dying a million fking times. Wasteland is harsh, LOL.
Playerbase? I'm a nolife and I don't have time or willpower to grind this to finally be able play the game. By the way, yes, this is a crypost.
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there are players which played 30+ hours and you want to force them to do all this again ?
lvl above 24 is not any advantage and you can lvl up from 1 to 24 in few hours, some npc gives thousands of exp for killing
however i completely agree with item wipe
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there are players which played 30+ hours and you want to force them to do all this again ?
lvl above 24 is not any advantage and you can lvl up from 1 to 24 in few hours, some npc gives thousands of exp for killing
however i completely agree with item wipe
Get to level 24 in 3 hours, then I will believe you, no video editing. Proof, or it didn't fucking happen. Until then, don't talk out of your ass.
I think your 30+ hours statement is more accurate.
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lvl above 24 is not any advantage and you can lvl up from 1 to 24 in few hours
there are players which played 30+ hours and you want to force them to do all this again ?
Force them to do what all over again ? According to you it's possible to get lvl 24 in few hours. Where's the problem? Items have to be wiped anyways.
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Get to level 24 in 3 hours, then I will believe you, no video editing. Proof, or it didn't fucking happen.
I think your 30+ hours statement is more accurate.
not in three hours, i said few hours
(http://s32.postimg.org/izmlnf0id/okaysdfsdf.png)
Force them to do what all over again ? According to you it's possible to get lvl 24 in few hours. Where's the problem? Items have to be wiped anyways.
actually yeah i agree
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Get to level 24 in 3 hours, then I will believe you, no video editing. Proof, or it didn't fucking happen.
I think your 30+ hours statement is more accurate.
not in three hours, i said few hours
(http://s32.postimg.org/izmlnf0id/okaysdfsdf.png)
Force them to do what all over again ? According to you it's possible to get lvl 24 in few hours. Where's the problem? Items have to be wiped anyways.
actually yeah i agree
So what's a few hours? 29 hours? :P
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Can anyone here present a solid reason why wiping the server while removing the level6 faction requirement along with a 2x exp boost for 24 hours would be a problem ?
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removing the level6 faction requirement
planned, or at least reducing to like 2 or something.
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removing the level6 faction requirement
planned, or at least reducing to like 2 or something.
That's not the problem. What the hell is a newbie going to do once he joins a faction? He's most likely gonna loot friends gear and be completely useless in ZC. Hell, even now Family is suffering from these random players.
Real problem was there was no way to level at launch. Even papa Cirn0 tried and took something hours to barely reach lvl 4, same with me and many others. Now I barely reached level 12 but can't PvP right so forced to be a sneak and catch a guy split from enemy swarm. Meanwhile I see giant groups farming dungeons cause they can do it without dying due to their numbers and now have way better leader buffs and more levels. And with these current ZC mechanics, smaller groups can't farm dungeons (can't level) or they get backstabbed.
There should have been an option to that old tutorial on season 1, that gave me like 7 levels before going to the Core.
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Wipe items but leave characters, because why not?
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Wipe items to fix the economy, thats okey.
But if you wipe the server again, I'm out.
I just spent like 12 hours getting from level 6 to level 24. Didn't fight at all. We were killing mobs at worldmap encounters or sneaking into non-common zones and farming there. Some point I was top5 exp I guess. Yeah, I died like milion times, but so what? It's doable without pvp. Stop crying.
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well i agree with aco and stalker here , game is unplayable at the moment and i think i wont play anymore till it gets wiped or whatever , why :
@powerplay : no advantage by level ? hehehe , did i miss something ? you will have on any server an advantage if u got an already passed softcap character againts some low level chars , why ? because you got maximum number of perks he dont have ( not to mention that some end softcap level perks arent funny ) ... i would even go so far to say that aop is pretty harsh whats considering after softcap levels , i mean you can max all your weapon skills but ofcourse only if you got the levels ( i dont diss the softcap or past softcap mechanics , i even liked them , i think most problems this season considering leveling are comming from very bad gamedesign choices aka no way to level except shooting high hp critters in a group or abusing terrible ai by just walking to exitgrids without a combat timer and so on and so on )
i dont know i could go on why its so broken and why im crying so hard but weeeh , really the aop we had before was nice and the mechanics were working ... the zc mechanics from last season beginning would work perfectly now without flooding the timers and we mentioned that couple of times , the assignments were good to get started now we were left with nothing , this was predictable also if any of you devs would have ever tried to level some character just by pveing in the core , the meta is totaly broken and this is a real shame because the meta we had before with 20 ~ 30 people online was working perfectly , now we got armors which dont have any damage resistance or are absolute crap in comparison to what dmg some guns and mobs deal ... you dont deal any damage to npcs because their resistances arent scaled to what u can use i guess ... so you end up with a horrible meta a real nightmare. and the core feature of this game is already disabled by this , becasue its no fun. this one small gun machine gun which u need to deploy lmfao can deal up to 100 dmg for less than 20 ap on other players , in addition if you are in cover the enemy has 75% cth if hes using the same gun or any other crap gun with iaccuracy 25% malus and u can just pewpew with this unbalanced shit , not to mention the annyoing replication timer ( which we were getting rid of alrdy but for some shaman magik its back in game because todd said so )... so pvp isnt even a option due to nightmare balancing and meta.
i mean i know what im talking about ( i played this server from 2014 till now ) and im so pissed again that most people wont see the prewipe aop , it was not perfect but it was 1 million times better than this and it was 2 million times better than the 2014 aop. and most of them wont see it because they will ragequit before that , including me becasue this is unplayable at the moment sorry.
- i had fun once ...
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Wipe items to fix the economy, thats okey.
But if you wipe the server again, I'm out.
I just spent like 12 hours getting from level 6 to level 24. Didn't fight at all. We were killing mobs at worldmap encounters or sneaking into non-common zones and farming there. Some point I was top5 exp I guess. Yeah, I died like milion times, but so what? It's doable without pvp. Stop crying.
plus this , devs were getting rid of assignments becasue they thought leveling by pve isnt the thing but now we are right back at it again because pvp at the moment sucks donkey balls its more beta than ever , we were right flying back to alpha i guess. i mean i know some of the blueprints and it looks really good but one man does not simply implement half finnished features ....
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+1 Vote for Total wipe, Resons:
Some people exploited game and head advantage over other players.
Start advantage = end advantage
Burn it all Burnnnnnnnnnnnn
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I am rather for economy wipe, but i can only tell from my personnal experience.
I don't plan to stash anything before joining a faction, because of that 50 caps thing, and i can't wait anymore to join a faction.
On the other hand, i spent a few hours in the core yesterday and i manage to get a few levels without dying agains't players (only once). If you keep wandering in the core, openning lockers, avoiding other players, reading books and fighting npc when you think you have a chance (don't let them swarm you, be willing to spare them if you think you gonna lose, be an opportunist when they fight each others, use doors/covers/exit grids), it is doable in less than 5 hours. But it can get very boring if you are forced to do it again when you are near the objective.
New players, of course, would require more time to get the same result. Even more reasons to not wipe their experience points. It isn't hard to level up, but a bit long, and a bit boring after a while, especially if said new player isn't fond of pve/exploration to begin with.
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duno but i really like how start works. You are lvl 1 stako and your main goal is to run run run get some xp and hope to live until you can start killing , reality is harsh
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Drop all higher level to 12 lvl and wipe items ;p
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duno but i really like how start works. You are lvl 1 stako and your main goal is to run run run get some xp and hope to live until you can start killing , reality is harsh
Like I said, it's a nice concept, it's just not that conducive with current game. Maybe if there were more lone NPC's to kill, heck even the lone savage with a knife will tear you apart in 3 seconds before you can even get him to half health =/. Don't get me wrong, I like the huge mobs, because when you are rolling with your faction it gives you something challenging to fight in the core, and adds to ambiance/immersion/good xp, but t here needs to be something for the level 1 loner as well.
Floaters were the best xp, just shoot and run, maybe cripple, centaurs and other things too dangerous. And I only found like 2 of those guys on the way to level 8
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i am up for total wipe and bringing back meta from season 1
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you can kill loner eazy at least i did on lvl 1 just use some good weapon and aim hands to drop weapon or something, worst case attack mele 1 from distance
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I am for the removal of 2 new factions, as they are making a strong imbalance, and armor from these fractions leave a like color, with 4 factions were a problem online, and the addition of 2 new no th did not change, how to run a pack of big coats and one of all bends, and continues.
It is better to leave 2 factions.
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+1 for complete wipe when things are fixed.
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pvp at the moment sucks donkey balls its more beta than ever
It feels like it is alpha or pre-alpha server. Client crashes, server offline, lags. In 2014 it was a better xD
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its called progress, and f stop attack npc base
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didnt even touched base npc or exploited anything, just farmed npc and still most exp, kek
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People will exploit absolutely everything. No wonder nukes fell.
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thats why i sey Total wipe alot people exploited stuff i would put a mothin like this so people can play and cirn0 fix bugs an later total wipe
Cirno at least add some spears at shop i newer heve enoguht spear f 1 spear cost 8 junk
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People will exploit absolutely everything. No wonder nukes fell.
this ^^
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make it this way:
- make complete wipe
- decrease gradient of weapon stats across the tiers
- first 50k or 100k chips(and everything from PVP) will be aquired 10 times faster for everyone( big PVP after wipe!)
- ban multiple characters from same IP address to prevent abuses
- ban ramen to prevent abuses generaly
- delete sneaker mechanics
- ban pervert players
- make every AOP player happy and healthy
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Buff lower tier weapons you forget...
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Buff lower tier weapons you forget...
updated
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I think we will like each other. Good luck stranger 8)
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ban everyone
stop butthurt cycle
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make it this way:
- ban ramen to prevent abuses generaly
- delete sneaker mechanics
- ban pervert players
- make every AOP player happy and healthy
Spot on mate
ban everyone
stop butthurt cycle
Naah just banning Ramon is enough :))))
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Why? I even started to like Ramon :(
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Wipe everything.
The thing is, there is not much to do nowadays.
XP got heavily exploited and had to be equalized.
CAPS are plenty and items have lost their value.
And this is just 3 weeks from wipe. It would be foolish to expect it won't happen again, but I'm pretty sure it won't be in such huge proportions as we have now.
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To the devs: I will point out stuff you did wrong in hopes of creating a better future.
AS SOON as the exploits were detected, and you realised economy was broken and xp abused.....you should have simply wiped it there and then......debating about wheter or not we should fix this horrible problem probably lost you 100 players right there. (Of COURSE you should fix it!)
Asking the players about it is not the best of idea.....after a week nothing was setled..no one knew wheter there would be a full wipe...item wipe...or no wipe at all.......talk about confusion and uncertainty.....I was one of those believers who had faith in humanity, so i figured a full wipe was coming....(we were just 2 days in the server, so it seems like the most logical thing to do) And thus i waited for it....i figured why keep grinding XP and gear? they HAVE to wipe....and so people kept playing....accumulated gear and grinded XP....then we were told there would be no wipe....wow....all those people who were waiting for the wipe aint coming back now lol.
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exp doesnt matter at all since there is no big diff in lvls after 24
old abused gear is useless since technology was bumped to t8/t9
devs said that there wont be full wipe and they should end this topic finally, there is alot of players playing and they dont cry about exploits which dont affect current pvp anyways but seems like some people cant understand it
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according to cirn0 its all 10min work to fix economy and other broken stuff, so maybe devs just lazy and wait till players fix it or i dont know.
better wait for next wipe in 2 years :) ... and pray to god that they will not break more and more stuff that worked out before and pray to god that they find some playerslave who will help them the right way, from what i know all people who joined helping and improving the game outside the nojet team already ragequitted... so we can only believe and pray till theres nothing left we can pray for except our filthy warm heartdriven memories.
oh and most important thing ofcourse: pray to god that they will use testers information as long as they got testers instead of ignoring them and just doing what they want.
theres no need for broken wipes like this when u got tester but if you dont know how to use dat tool then its rest in piss.
well in end even if you contribute and your ideas pgud it have to be approved by the council of tards, maybe thats why all contributors alrdy ragequitted i dont know, i believe in end if you really like the game you can only pray thaat tards will be grow one day and god enlight them.
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exp doesnt matter at all since there is no big diff in lvls after 24
old abused gear is useless since technology was bumped to t8/t9
Aside from all the support perks and skill pts....sure
And for the gear: That's just another problem imo....i would have loved to see the low-tier times last much longer. As a result most of the low-tier weapons were never tested/balanced, and heck we missed a whole fun part of the game, those precious days where people wear robes and leather and fight using blackpowder weapons and whatever they could scavenge.
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in aop its all about levels after softcap, because you got features like nightime maluses you cant do anything against so having all wepaonskills buffed to 250 ofc gives you big advantages at any random set time ingame. because you can uses melee with non so melee build (thx to ripper) for example in deepest nighttime (aka biggest retard malus) which makes your sniperchar and all other sniperchars probably useless and so on and so on. would be foolish to believe this isnt any advantage, 5 weapon perks are always an advantage to someone who doesnt got them, or against. and got them on all guns make your build versatile as fuck, so i say its all about this in the end, thanks to not so good thought out features :)
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there will be wipe on the fo2 server soon
the server a phoenix will die
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FO2? Who cares...
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fagline 2 lol :D it was good in previous session, now its crap
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No diversity in weapons and armors :(
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Just wipe the shit out of this an call recent season 2.0 and after wipe 2.1
There was a lot of fixes and I personally would not mind being betatester, and now star all over.
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Just wipe the shit out of this an call recent season 2.0 and after wipe 2.1
There was a lot of fixes and I personally would not mind being betatester, and now star all over.
That would piss too many people off I think. Not sure why though, look at Rust, wipes every 2 weeks, has thousands of players. And in this you don't even have to worry about spending hours building your base.
A wipe wouldn't bother me too much though, I hardly have anything XD.
About beta testers, devs should learn from this, have like a 1-2 week beta testing time before an official wipe/launch. That would have helped at lot this last wipe.
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Just wipe the shit out of this an call recent season 2.0 and after wipe 2.1
There was a lot of fixes and I personally would not mind being betatester, and now star all over.
That would piss too many people off I think. Not sure why though, look at Rust, wipes every 2 weeks, has thousands of players. And in this you don't even have to worry about spending hours building your base.
A wipe wouldn't bother me too much though, I hardly have anything XD.
About beta testers, devs should learn from this, have like a 1-2 week beta testing time before an official wipe/launch. That would have helped at lot this last wipe.
`have like a 1-2 week beta testing time before an official wipe/launch`
Brother, I´ve played through a 14 month testing time.
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then probably also some new players without 14 months long experiences would be relevant.
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I say full wipe, lower teir weapons with low chances to find the better. Finding dsrs all over the place lol
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Just wipe the shit out of this an call recent season 2.0 and after wipe 2.1
+1
Im already about to play again(1st time this wipe) even though ded server so a new wipe would be ideal