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RazorRamon

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buff pistols
« on: February 17, 2016, 09:12:59 PM »

weakest weapon category atm, even below smg

[ x ] low range
[ x ] shit dps
[ x ] no cool special effects

improve that shit!

if you dont have any ideas, just draw a number from ramon suggestion box:
- Trick shooter baseline for all pistols, perk massively increases drop range of the weapon
- Unaffected by cover and deploy malus. If you manage to get close enough to someone in cover/deployed, you really deserve to hit every shot with a pistol
- Trait that gives bonus damage to pistols if target doesnt have an ally in a certain radius around him (pistols are THE dueling weapon after all)
- Decreasing firerate or AP cost with every subsequent attack on the same target

« Last Edit: February 17, 2016, 09:34:23 PM by RazorRamon »
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2016, 10:26:55 PM »

Had you tried the 14mm with simian warfare?

I do agree some pistols should be changed since they're bad. Colt, .223 pistol, P220, etc. Just not something that will make spamming OP.
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2016, 11:27:54 PM »

i think colt is cool and 14mm , other ones are shit for sure ... even tho i like the revovler but the aimtime killing it for crippling somehow , maybe some rework and complete cover bonus that enemy can get as iaccuracy perk on pistols ...

also plasma pistol aint bad , even tho laser one sucks hard
« Last Edit: February 17, 2016, 11:32:28 PM by FrankenStone »
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2016, 04:31:33 AM »

223 needs revamp, colt needs 8% damage buff, magneto needs critical shooty, YK needs 1 more AP drain (1x AP drain does next to nothing for ANY weapon)
Nothing else needs to be changed in pistols.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2016, 04:34:20 AM by mafiapl »
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2016, 05:49:16 AM »

Compared to other close range weapons like smg or shotgun, pistol can do unaimed single shot and aimed shot.

Singlet shots gets stronger with teamwork by making lines at a door or window. I don't think anyone is doing this anymore with so many viable splash damage weapons and smoke ingame.

Aimed shot doesn't make much sense in close range fight especially in peeking situation. I think aimed shot should be the main purpose of pistol, maybe by decreasing aimtime for aimed shot (most likely not possible).
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2016, 08:58:29 AM »

yeah no aimtime penalty (or less) would also make pistol viable again
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2016, 03:15:34 AM »

No aim time for pistols  :-\ (I think cirn0 confirmed this on IRC)

trick shooter is gonna be real. Legendaries and weapons getting stuck in walls and unreachable areas, oh well, time to spam concussion grenades :D
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2016, 05:52:04 AM »

You will kill mozambikue if you remove aim time.
That is wayyy too strong of a buff for pistols.
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2016, 11:55:56 AM »

less aimtime wud be good
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2016, 12:51:08 PM »

You will kill mozambikue if you remove aim time.
That is wayyy too strong of a buff for pistols.

Mozam has already been nerfed into the ground from where it used to be
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2016, 08:39:12 PM »

Please revert pistols, just colt OP shit with knockouts and high bleed
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2016, 01:03:29 AM »

Please revert pistols, just colt OP shit with knockouts and high bleed

Only if you get caught alone. Was using it today, and it was utter shit unless I caught someone close range and unawares. I got absolutely wreckt if I got engaged past 10-15 hexes. And the knockout is nowhere near as bad as getting stun locked by 2 people 50 hexes+ away. The colt is now very powerful, but its still very situational.

Its like: Holy shit, people have decided to use weapons where they're appropriate, shame on them.
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2016, 06:54:13 AM »

I don't know how OP pistols are because literally nobody is using them.
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2016, 11:56:57 AM »

RUHE! SILENTIUM! john porno exlusive footage form devtable while balancing ...

« Last Edit: February 20, 2016, 11:58:43 AM by FrankenStone »
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #14 on: February 24, 2016, 01:55:12 PM »

I agree. I used pistols briefly (first time since Deagle .50 was OP) and was severly disappointed.

Pistols should have very high single shot damage. It shouldn't be as much as a burst from other guns, but should be comparable.

Another recommendation is to have pistols with a weapon feat (maybe at 250) that removes the aiming timer. Turn the pistols into a short range crippler, designed for skilled gunslingers.
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2016, 09:39:29 PM »

So.....any plans to change pistols? Colt is good atm, but completely negated by high luck/ crit resist builders. x5 finisher only works when you can get them on the ground.

Wold be fucking great if the S&W revolver would get some love.
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2016, 10:15:54 PM »

So.....any plans to change pistols? Colt is good atm, but completely negated by high luck/ crit resist builders. x5 finisher only works when you can get them on the ground.

Wold be fucking great if the S&W revolver would get some love.

what chu dalking abut ?

whut love ? s and w is fine with 2 better crits its one of very few wepaons which have that ... and about the colt with finnisher u probably didnt mean on ground but more like if u can use stunnades , supression and other temporary effect on enemy players while using teh colt :^)

in my opinion the pistol whihc really needs some love is the 223 one ... but john probably isnt a fan of arian robots from bladerunner ...

some tip : if u dont like the finnisher thing on colt u can use the sig sauer isntead which got almost  the same firerate but other perks
« Last Edit: March 06, 2016, 10:21:18 PM by FrankenStone »
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Re: buff pistols
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2016, 12:15:29 AM »

First courier was a mutant, then a mobster, and now a monkey banana enthusiast. What will he be next :V

Also lol at marxman, basically what courier said is my reply.
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