FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
Community section => Events & Politics => Topic started by: FrankenStone on August 10, 2015, 05:37:53 PM
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Like u have noticed we were getting swamred in all last battles for last week , v tec even decided to sit in rooms with having twice our number ! my call is that if u are a serious player you should probably wait for wipe and stop playing until we can hold up to the numbers , because if you dont do then you simply run out of gear and feed the enemy with caps , dollars , loot , legendarys , whatever . so it should be in your own interest . the enemy said they got enough number to play with themself , well i ahvent seen anyone ever swicth from v tec swarm to another faction except me and stalker , so i call for it and lets all better wait till it balance itself . otherwise you wont get fun and u playing right in the hand of your enemy .
best regards your lovely Kurwier
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Says the man who brings 10 physco and 4 voodoo and 4 afterburner in 1 battle, with 20 smoke grenades on top of it.
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Yeah Lawyers, stop playing this game till developers do something about swarm and shit. Literally starts off as 2 small fights with equal numbers, V-Tec loses and call 6+ more guys, 2 sPA and shit just to win, it's real pathetic. Funny part us they think we're the noobs ::)
Anyways I'll be waiting till wipe or unless devs do something...maybe equal numbers PvP event but for now, Lawyers won't be seeing me for a while. Good Luck whoever stays and plays but I highly suggest not to.
Shame such a great server ruined by something that can be fixed...
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I like AoP so I will reroll my character on sneaker build and switch from melee to needler and back from time to time. In team PvP rarely can get occasion and did a good frag because enemy look one for another. So, will play solo in the Core. I believe, somebody from other factions play as a lone sneaker or two-man-army, so it wasn't be an easy way - but anyway, better, then reject game in general.
I still can't say for sure can I stay away if some of our guys will start ZC activity. Curiosity sometimes stronger then me.
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Courrier >
There is much more switchers than Stalker/Courrier, permanent switchers or temporary switchers. They allow the game to remain playable. Still, there is not enough of them and there is too many player under the blue flags, but switchers are there.
Then, you are ranting about something everyone is already fully aware since 2014...
Also it won't balance itself. They didn't shred a tear when the BBoys disapeared. All sides with slowly disapear as many players lose interest/don't have time and new players might struggle to pick a side. If they join small team, they can't PVP. If they join big team, they prevent small team to play even more.
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Literally starts off as 2 small fights with equal numbers, V-Tec loses and call 6+ more guys, 2 sPA and shit just to win, it's real pathetic. Funny part us they think we're the noobs
Actually, I already start feel myself as a noob because I play same game and can earn same gear. I got plenty of shit in stash, only can't figure out case with sPA. This damned thing killed me at almost every battle I had today. But my hope still alive because of some good fights you guys won today. Especially it was like magic at our Gates.
But there is no reason for will trainings and mind practics: Courier said what he said and it will put Law in stasis. As I think, for a while.
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Literally starts off as 2 small fights with equal numbers, V-Tec loses and call 6+ more guys, 2 sPA and shit just to win, it's real pathetic. Funny part us they think we're the noobs
Actually, I already start feel myself as a noob because I play same game and can earn same gear. I got plenty of shit in stash, only can't figure out case with sPA. This damned thing killed me at almost every battle I had today. But my hope still alive because of some good fights you guys won today. Especially it was like magic at our Gates.
But there is no reason for will trainings and mind practics: Courier said what he said and it will put Law in stasis. As I think, for a while.
Fight at gates was magical. Unbelievable. :D
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Courrier >
There is much more switchers than Stalker/Courrier, permanent switchers or temporary switchers. They allow the game to remain playable. Still, there is not enough of them and there is too many player under the blue flags, but switchers are there.
Then, you are ranting about something everyone is already fully aware since 2014...
Also it won't balance itself. They didn't shred a tear when the BBoys disapeared. All sides with slowly disapear as many players lose interest/don't have time and new players might struggle to pick a side. If they join small team, they can't PVP. If they join big team, they prevent small team to play even more.
the problem is that we got so much retards that think going 4 vs 14 is fun and give them anything , the truth is that this will destroy playerbase because enemy can farm score , equippment in peace while they arent giving us that attention when we have the bigger number , i cant even think about any 3rd battle were tecs did showed up when the law had the number . now think about why they do so , its totally frustrating to play against such shit enemy , im okey if its all for the fun but in same time they dont give u the same fun ;D
i think its good to let the game put on side because according to paragon they got enough number to play with themself , so lets just see and wait . as long as there will be 4 law noobs who still go out to fight against some real fugging swarm things wont change , any serious gang wud have stopped going to fight them after 2 swarm attendings just like they do . so better let them balance the game itself and then rejoin if they done , if not , why even bother ? there are plenty of other games out there .
Actually, I already start feel myself as a noob because I play same game and can earn same gear. I got plenty of shit in stash, only can't figure out case with sPA. This damned thing killed me at almost every battle I had today. But my hope still alive because of some good fights you guys won today. Especially it was like magic at our Gates.
But there is no reason for will trainings and mind practics: Courier said what he said and it will put Law in stasis. As I think, for a while.
introducing sPA was most of terrible decision ever balance wise , same goes for robco ... every good player can second that .
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"oh shnap, courier's down guys, be sure to loot him.. he's the human pinata." -probably not an exact quote, but close enough to what we say every time you die. :D
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Hey, might as well use the gear for fun.
Camping toilets with smoke and the fight in the gate made my evening.
Magical.
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"oh shnap, courier's down guys, be sure to loot him.. he's the human pinata." -probably not an exact quote, but close enough to what we say every time you die. :D
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must happen rarely , but im glad that u see the difference while looting my body in comparison to picking up twats ones with rpk and colt inside ... any time soon u wont loot anything from me what a shame ...
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Aaaaaah I logged in tonight and nobody !!! How could you do that to meeeeeee :'(
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Aaaaaah I logged in tonight and nobody !!! How could you do that to meeeeeee :'(
you are too late man , we cud have used some more people serious ... 80% of battles was almost being outnumbered by twice our own number
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sPA stronk until you start hitting it with laser gat/rocket/flames/milkor/spear/ripper/rad rifle. So make sure some of the team always brings weapons like that. A milkor or rad rifle is good all round so you won't lose out even if enemy doesn't bring a sPA. Two people focussing fire with any of the above will take down a sPA.
P.S. courier's hoard is of such epic proportions that he could single handedly fund Lawyer pvp until march 2019. So I wouldn't worry too much. On the other hand, STALKER's threat of not playing AOP until wipe might encourage Cirn0 to postpone wipe until march 2019.
Literally starts off as 2 small fights with equal numbers, V-Tec loses and call 6+ more guys, 2 sPA and shit just to win, it's real pathetic. Funny part us they think we're the noobs
Actually, I already start feel myself as a noob because I play same game and can earn same gear. I got plenty of shit in stash, only can't figure out case with sPA. This damned thing killed me at almost every battle I had today. But my hope still alive because of some good fights you guys won today. Especially it was like magic at our Gates.
But there is no reason for will trainings and mind practics: Courier said what he said and it will put Law in stasis. As I think, for a while.
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sPA stronk until you start hitting it with laser gat/rocket/flames/milkor/spear/ripper/rad rifle. So make sure some of the team always brings weapons like that. A milkor or rad rifle is good all round so you won't lose out even if enemy doesn't bring a sPA. Two people focussing fire with any of the above will take down a sPA.
P.S. courier's hoard is of such epic proportions that he could single handedly fund Lawyer pvp until march 2019. So I wouldn't worry too much. On the other hand, STALKER's threat of not playing AOP until wipe might encourage Cirn0 to postpone wipe until march 2019.
Literally starts off as 2 small fights with equal numbers, V-Tec loses and call 6+ more guys, 2 sPA and shit just to win, it's real pathetic. Funny part us they think we're the noobs
Actually, I already start feel myself as a noob because I play same game and can earn same gear. I got plenty of shit in stash, only can't figure out case with sPA. This damned thing killed me at almost every battle I had today. But my hope still alive because of some good fights you guys won today. Especially it was like magic at our Gates.
But there is no reason for will trainings and mind practics: Courier said what he said and it will put Law in stasis. As I think, for a while.
only noobs take spas , and what we see 90% of times what weapons sPA guys has , yeh legendary turbo and other shiny stuff ... its not a problem to fight against more numbers for me but it becomes even more drastic if tehse guys bring stuff like sPA , legendarys and so on ... makes it even harder to do anything in direct fight and you fuckers just know that . this sPA most shit ever introduced balance wise , same goes for robco and like i said many players can second that ...it was all fine before , but then giving aop some kind of grind shiet just plays again in the hand of the swarm and i heard that it wont be changed so who cares . thats the world in open pvp games , eitherway u like to get rekt or not or you simply just stop playing at some point like many others . problems with sPA already adressed , in my point of view AoP was better without that grinding stuff which clearly gives u an advantage ...
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sPA shouldn't have ever been implemented. It's such a bullshit armor that you're forced to take a certain weapon just to kill it.
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Maybe to kill it outright u need a rad rifle and a spear and a milkor.. but every bring nades and a good variety/combo of weapons and 1 or 2 pa still dies, I don't think its such bullshit. How do u have an unpop server or any mmo without some grind? At least robco has many pvp elements
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A lot of nice words from Courier but the truth is Courier and Stalker are the biggest loot hoarders. Yet he talks about lawyers running out of gear, coincidence?
What I see here is some guy trying to save his own face, only caring about his reputation and his loot.
the truth is that this will destroy playerbase because enemy can farm score , equippment in peace while they arent giving us that attention when we have the bigger number
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i ahvent seen anyone ever swicth from v tec swarm to another faction except me and stalker
Doon and his friends. I won't cite other names because I already did in another post. Yay memory.
Again this talk about SPA...
This thread : http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=2521.0
Stalker asking for SPA buff
Guess what happen... SPA was nerfed later on.
Today we are talking about SPA again why ? vtechs use SPA, I cry.
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techs use their 1 legendary item -- i cri and keep mine locked in a safe.
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A lot of nice words from Courier but the truth is Courier and Stalker are the biggest loot hoarders. Yet he talks about lawyers running out of gear, coincidence?
What I see here is some guy trying to save his own face, only caring about his reputation and his loot.
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Bwahaha, we're not Komrade now. What, he has like 20 sPA doesn't he and half the server's legendary weapons :D Also no point trying to take good gear when we just get swarmed to death.
Again this talk about SPA...
This thread : http://fonline-aop.net/forum/index.php?topic=2521.0
Stalker asking for SPA buff
Guess what happen... SPA was nerfed later on.
Today we are talking about SPA again why ? vtechs use SPA, I cry.
Reverse psychology bitch
Maybe to kill it outright u need a rad rifle and a spear and a milkor.. but every bring nades and a good variety/combo of weapons and 1 or 2 pa still dies, I don't think its such bullshit. How do u have an unpop server or any mmo without some grind? At least robco has many pvp elements
lol you think we don't know how to kill sPA? We just can't cause they're too many of you. V-Tec just can't accept that fact that they need 4+ more than the enemy to win.
You sure do talk a lot for a guy who hasn't been playing. Just glad or else another shitter in the swarm...but if you ever want the lawyer experience and see what I'm talking about, come play with lawyers 1 fight and you'll understand why now Niamak.
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They say a good critic doesn't need to know his subject. xddd
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Love how you're trying to be with me with the xddd
So cute 8)
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"Dont play until wipe takes away all your gear or else you will actually use your equip!"
Great idea courier
Vtechs swarm, I cry.
Vtechs don't start cap, I cry.
Vtechs don't fight except monday and tuesday, I cry.
Vtechs have spies, I cry.
Vtechs have sneakers, I cry
Vtechs have gauss, I cry.
Vtechs have SPA, I cry.
Vtechs use drugs, I cry.
Vtechs have weapons, I cry.
Vtechs have armors, I cry.
Vtechs have players, I cry.
Vtechs topdeck, I cry.
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My nigga for using Yuno Gasai :D
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About bringing the gear, it's very different between VTech or Law. From what I saw with gauss rifles and sPA (maybe it changed now as more high tier weapon Idk), Vtech use high level items when they have very high chances to recover them in case of death. Like using it on a sneak playing safe. Most of the time, obviously were when VTech had more numbers, always having someone running to loot gauss or whatever high level item.
Don't get me wrong, this is how a team should play, and it shows again the cohesion inside VTech, but Laws don't have numbers to do that. And when they have numbers, I rarely saw people taking sPA or whatever high level because we didn't need to. Also we do have few people who don't care about loot, how many times did I heard on Mumble while retreating and asking about retrieving loot "Fuck loot, let them have it they won" (Hi Tenova ;D)
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Stalker, Courier if you have gear, you might as well use it.
If you want we can come up with some team compositions tonight. Up to you guys.
If not, I will play knifey knife smoke stab in Maryland toilets lol.
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About bringing the gear, it's very different between VTech or Law. From what I saw with gauss rifles and sPA (maybe it changed now as more high tier weapon Idk), Vtech use high level items when they have very high chances to recover them in case of death. Like using it on a sneak playing safe. Most of the time, obviously were when VTech had more numbers, always having someone running to loot gauss or whatever high level item.
Don't get me wrong, this is how a team should play, and it shows again the cohesion inside VTech, but Laws don't have numbers to do that. And when they have numbers, I rarely saw people taking sPA or whatever high level because we didn't need to. Also we do have few people who don't care about loot, how many times did I heard on Mumble while retreating and asking about retrieving loot "Fuck loot, let them have it they won" (Hi Tenova ;D)
Anaza, all Tenova cares about IS loot.
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About bringing the gear, it's very different between VTech or Law. From what I saw with gauss rifles and sPA (maybe it changed now as more high tier weapon Idk), Vtech use high level items when they have very high chances to recover them in case of death. Like using it on a sneak playing safe. Most of the time, obviously were when VTech had more numbers, always having someone running to loot gauss or whatever high level item.
Don't get me wrong, this is how a team should play, and it shows again the cohesion inside VTech, but Laws don't have numbers to do that. And when they have numbers, I rarely saw people taking sPA or whatever high level because we didn't need to. Also we do have few people who don't care about loot, how many times did I heard on Mumble while retreating and asking about retrieving loot "Fuck loot, let them have it they won" (Hi Tenova ;D)
^ this x1000. I tried taking sPA + gatling...held them off for a while but only got swarmed in the end
Stalker, Courier if you have gear, you might as well use it.
If you want we can come up with some team compositions tonight. Up to you guys.
If not, I will play knifey knife smoke stab in Maryland toilets lol.
We have tons of gears but we play to win (well I do at least xd)...something we can't accomplish when we fight swarm... but fug it, its only pixels. I can see why devs don't give a shit about the swarm problem.
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That gate batlle though.
That made my night lol
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dude, it was pretty awesome. i think we had 8 total but we got split up.. some of us went to vtech gate and when we heard there were law in the north i popped my voodoo and ran all over vtech looking for you... so then i go world map and forget about the voodoo. by the time i got to you guys i was walking lol and hellmri was just like charge! we tried to save death0 even tho he was outside of the saving range and suff had already taken a bunch of butthurt and was healing.. damage and his sPA were forced to escape :) so i think all in all like 4 of you killed 6 of us
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If i am not wrong, the law suffered a bit from the loss of some members that got to the BBoys. It is OK IMO, although it would make sense to have a group of VTEC join the family too so we would have 4 factions with balanced numbers. But i doubt they would do it considering they didn't nothing about the swarm in the full year we were talking them about it. Anyway, even if unlikely, it wouldn't hurt to ask them once more in case they got some sense.
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If i am not wrong, the law suffered a bit from the loss of some members that got to the BBoys. It is OK IMO, although it would make sense to have a group of VTEC join the family too so we would have 4 factions with balanced numbers. But i doubt they would do it considering they didn't nothing about the swarm in the full year we were talking them about it. Anyway, even if unlikely, it wouldn't hurt to ask them once more in case they got some sense.
That does happen. Family just ends up switching to their V-tec alts when they lose.
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I doubt so.
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I doubt so.
You're rarely on to see it...also family being on is rare too.
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Yes... the famous family to vtec switchers.
Always happy when obelix comes to us and brings better gear + performs better than our core players.
oh wait wrong faction ;^)))
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Brain damage intensifies.
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I doubt so.
Switching did happen.
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Sure, but switching TOWARD the swarm ? What purpose would it serve beside broking the server ?
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All switching lead to the Swarm.
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As I see for now we got near 7-8 guys who logged themself in and after few minutes out, one for another. Our "problem" isn't numbers. There is no hope in squad chat. No entusiasm. If we can kill other group with +2-3 extra players in it - nothing actually changed. We still GOT PEOPLE.
But we freak them outta game by own hands. We speak how many Techs are. I did it too. But usually (except last Stalker's video) they are about our numbers plus 2-3-4. And we kinda can handle it. I remember so many talks about our game skills with each other after winned battles.
But now even I rerolled own char on annoying sneaker and do lone-wolf shit in the Core instead of teamwork. It's way easier, just give up and talk with every collocutor about mighty Vault Techs instead of fraze "let's try again". Maybe I already tried too many times without hope in myself. Or I just heard about Tech's platoon which about switch to our side for balance sake. And decide "way easier to wait, when Techs starts feel themselfs boring from this game on strongest side".
Also, I still don't now, how stable our skills are - maybe, we just need to try harder. Useless piece of text without conclusion, isn't it :-\
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As I see for now we got near 7-8 guys who logged themself in and after few minutes out, one for another. Our "problem" isn't numbers. There is no hope in squad chat. No entusiasm. If we can kill other group with +2-3 extra players in it - nothing actually changed. We still GOT PEOPLE.
But we freak them outta game by own hands. We speak how many Techs are. I did it too. But usually (except last Stalker's video) they are about our numbers plus 2-3-4. And we kinda can handle it. I remember so many talks about our game skills with each other after winned battles.
But now even I rerolled own char on annoying sneaker and do lone-wolf shit in the Core instead of teamwork. It's way easier, just give up and talk with every collocutor about mighty Vault Techs instead of fraze "let's try again". Maybe I already tried too many times without hope in myself. Or I just heard about Tech's platoon which about switch to our side for balance sake. And decide "way easier to wait, when Techs starts feel themselfs boring from this game on strongest side".
Also, I still don't now, how stable our skills are - maybe, we just need to try harder. Useless piece of text without conclusion, isn't it :-\
You've never played with me then, I try to be a shining beacon of morale during ZC because its definitely lacking.
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but ya'll play together like everyday... still it is true that moral is probably one reason we techs are so cohesive. you guys are really good and always using different tactics and try different plays, but teambuilding is a big factor.. a team that has both more numbers and plays together more consistently and communicating more efficiently will have a significant advantage. consistent intel relay makes making decisions in the heat of battle more cohesive for the entire team.
but me and twat will probably be on sparsely until next monday so the numbers shouldn't be AS huge of an issue for any interested players between now and then... of course, vtech never misses two that terribly. anyway, GL, i really want to see you guys to get a couple more consistent players over there and step your game back up again.
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but ya'll play together like everyday... still it is true that moral is probably one reason we techs are so cohesive. you guys are really good and always using different tactics and try different plays, but teambuilding is a big factor.. a team that has both more numbers and plays together more consistently and communicating more efficiently will have a significant advantage. consistent intel relay makes making decisions in the heat of battle more cohesive for the entire team.
but me and twat will probably be on sparsely until next monday so the numbers shouldn't be AS huge of an issue for any interested players between now and then... of course, vtech never misses two that terribly. anyway, GL, i really want to see you guys to get a couple more consistent players over there and step your game back up again.
You are a patronising shit. Get a grip.
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Morale isn't lacking to be honest. Normally happy to go again. Yesterday was tough because, we had a team of 6/7. 3 was on TS. 2 hadn't played for a while.
Trying to be positive is fine, getting the other shit done is a little harder.
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What ? There was action yesterday ?? I logged in at 9pm and there was only Courier on sneak coz no one else online :-\
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sure bro, patronizing. that's what i'm doing. maybe you should get a grip on ur balls and recognize that i'm just trying to help, not troll, this game. sure, i'm the centre of my fucking universe, suck on that for a while. jeez, what're you impressioning from me now?
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but ya'll play together like everyday... still it is true that moral is probably one reason we techs are so cohesive. you guys are really good and always using different tactics and try different plays, but teambuilding is a big factor.. a team that has both more numbers and plays together more consistently and communicating more efficiently will have a significant advantage. consistent intel relay makes making decisions in the heat of battle more cohesive for the entire team.
but me and twat will probably be on sparsely until next monday so the numbers shouldn't be AS huge of an issue for any interested players between now and then... of course, vtech never misses two that terribly. anyway, GL, i really want to see you guys to get a couple more consistent players over there and step your game back up again.
Not everyone is on 24/7 like V-tec is. I literally see damage on almost every time I log ingame.
You act like we don't know tactics. of course we do but we're not enough to execute it against the V-tec swarm.
sure bro, patronizing. that's what i'm doing. maybe you should get a grip on ur balls and recognize that i'm just trying to help, not troll, this game. sure, i'm the centre of my fucking universe, suck on that for a while. jeez, what're you impressioning from me now?
If you wanna help, switch to lawyers like you said you would in a PM. V-tec already has enough players, even with the server at low population.
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ya, i'm probably going to if everyone is fine with it, i'm just butthurt now because matthuew thru shit at my face and called me some sort of headcase.. but ya. sorry, i know u guys know tactics, its just that in the last vid, u told ur boys in sPA to rush right with only vision of who was on the left.. maybe data not on comms but after they broke through the smoke the fight was all over. we didn't really have all 14 on grid that u saw in the sewer, but whoever wasn't with the five on the left was apparently ready for the rush on the right. im not trying to be a fkin asshole.
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ya, i'm probably going to if everyone is fine with it, i'm just butthurt now because matthuew thru shit at my face and called me some sort of headcase.. but ya. sorry, i know u guys know tactics, its just that in the last vid, u told ur boys in sPA to rush right with only vision of who was on the left.. maybe data not on comms but after they broke through the smoke the fight was all over. we didn't really have all 14 on grid that u saw in the sewer, but whoever wasn't with the five on the left was apparently ready for the rush on the right. im not trying to be a fkin asshole.
I only expected 3-4 of your guys there...didn't realize there was also 6+ on that side. Also there was more than 5 on the left. And I'm pretty sure all 14 of tecs were in JC.
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Vancarny gonna make naossano proud.
Btw I like that now courier forum account is now a guest account.
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well we must have had (at least) two behind us.. cus it seemed like a dsr (or two) and a rocket got eva from huge range. so ya that sounds like at least 12 on grid.
so ya,with all of what you were able to see throughout the fight i can see why you'd make that call. because besides us rushing from left you had only seen like 2-3 other dudes, because when u were right so were a few of those who were left after you went to rez eva. against those numbers you didn't really have a move at that point i guess, because if you had had maybe two more covering left when me and my brother peaked left we probably would not have survived.
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ya, i'm probably going to if everyone is fine with it, i'm just butthurt now because matthuew thru shit at my face and called me some sort of headcase.. but ya. sorry, i know u guys know tactics, its just that in the last vid, u told ur boys in sPA to rush right with only vision of who was on the left.. maybe data not on comms but after they broke through the smoke the fight was all over. we didn't really have all 14 on grid that u saw in the sewer, but whoever wasn't with the five on the left was apparently ready for the rush on the right. im not trying to be a fkin asshole.
I only expected 3-4 of your guys there...didn't realize there was also 6+ on that side. Also there was more than 5 on the left. And I'm pretty sure all 14 of tecs were in JC.
I've taken the liberty of doing the counting for you. Starring in junk canyon video:
junkman
twat
professoryannick
vorpal
airbourne
'primus'
retr
hellmri
pewpew
YuraM
Undertaker
MsSniper
death0
So indeed you had the numbers against you.
Now on to combat analysis:
-You had opportunity to kill twat, vorpal and junkman on multiple occasions but didn't. A lot of careless peeking on the right side but I don't see any 14mm/M1C attempting knockouts. In fact most of the team is positioned in a way that they can't shoot the people on the right at all.
-Minigun through smoke/to counter rush is effective. Gatling isn't.
-Rushing right side was a good idea, but you would have needed the aforementioned minigun to keep guys on left in check. At the moment where you decide to rush right side there is 5 people on the right. Including 2 rad rifles, one grenadier and a rocket launcher. PAs move in one by one through the smoke without support. 1st PA already dead when 2nd PA starts shooting, other 2 guys can't support because of smoke. Rest of team is somewhere else doing nothing.
So to make a long story short. Yes you were outnumbered. But if you would have killed a couple of tecs in first few minutes and if you would have you rushed right in a more organized way this would have been a different battle.
This is not meant to paternalize anyone in lawyers (except for courier and stalker ofc.) because lawyers were, after all, outnumbered 13 to 8 and there is no shame in losing a battle like that. But its not constructive to just cry 'OMG swarm its not fair devs please do sth I'm going to quit AOP' all the time. Especially not in a battle like this where lawyers, in my opinion, actually did have opportunities to change the course of the battle.
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This is funny - everyone seems to think that they are Captain Pichard.
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ya, i'm probably going to if everyone is fine with it, i'm just butthurt now because matthuew thru shit at my face and called me some sort of headcase.. but ya. sorry, i know u guys know tactics, its just that in the last vid, u told ur boys in sPA to rush right with only vision of who was on the left.. maybe data not on comms but after they broke through the smoke the fight was all over. we didn't really have all 14 on grid that u saw in the sewer, but whoever wasn't with the five on the left was apparently ready for the rush on the right. im not trying to be a fkin asshole.
I only expected 3-4 of your guys there...didn't realize there was also 6+ on that side. Also there was more than 5 on the left. And I'm pretty sure all 14 of tecs were in JC.
I've taken the liberty of doing the counting for you. Starring in junk canyon video:
junkman
twat
professoryannick
vorpal
airbourne
'primus'
retr
hellmri
pewpew
YuraM
Undertaker
MsSniper
death0
So indeed you had the numbers against you.
Now on to combat analysis:
-You had opportunity to kill twat, vorpal and junkman on multiple occasions but didn't. A lot of careless peeking on the right side but I don't see any 14mm/M1C attempting knockouts. In fact most of the team is positioned in a way that they can't shoot the people on the right at all.
-Minigun through smoke/to counter rush is effective. Gatling isn't.
-Rushing right side was a good idea, but you would have needed the aforementioned minigun to keep guys on left in check. At the moment where you decide to rush right side there is 5 people on the right. Including 2 rad rifles, one grenadier and a rocket launcher. PAs move in one by one through the smoke without support. 1st PA already dead when 2nd PA starts shooting, other 2 guys can't support because of smoke. Rest of team is somewhere else doing nothing.
So to make a long story short. Yes you were outnumbered. But if you would have killed a couple of tecs in first few minutes and if you would have you rushed right in a more organized way this would have been a different battle.
This is not meant to paternalize anyone in lawyers (except for courier and stalker ofc.) because lawyers were, after all, outnumbered 13 to 8 and there is no shame in losing a battle like that. But its not constructive to just cry 'OMG swarm its not fair devs please do sth I'm going to quit AOP' all the time. Especially not in a battle like this where lawyers, in my opinion, actually did have opportunities to change the course of the battle.
Hindsight is a beautiful thing - Commander Riker.
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Teela is Swarm Commander.
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w/e this is one world-reknowned butthurt manager deleting his posts.
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I love how teela thinks he's the best commander winning by swarm ::)
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Too much honor. It was Hellmoi calling the shots.