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*Concerning Gear*
« on: May 08, 2016, 04:40:40 PM »

Please stop adding more broken and unbalanced weapons on top of those we already have....I had great fun since the wipe, even tho i was bugged my many details: sandstorms, sneakers, obliterated economy...
But the fun officially ends today sadly, since i was critically shot for 470 damage in the groin with no mentions of armor bypass or anything. ???

Aaand that's it....this aint the same game anymore because i can get insta killed. Made that mistake in season 1 with the ninja sneakers that hit for 600+, i tought you'd have realised this was not a mistake to repeat....you then added power armors on top (to counter the insta-kills?  :-\ ) With anti-crit 100%...wich broke the game even more. Don't try to fix broken things by countering them with another broken thing.....just DONT put insta-kill weapons in the game at all, and if anything destroys the fun and atmosphere created in phoenix, it's seeing hordes of guys in PAs and avengers.

Focus more on the lower tiers, balance the already wide selection of guns and armors available. Re-establish a working economy and balanced crafting system.
It just seems like you keep tossing candies at our faces to try and keep us a bit longer: '' look tier 12 is in the game now, we will have even MORE tiers coming soon!'' kinda like World of Warcraft's +10 max level +new gear expansions every 6 months: You can now all WORK your way to the NEW max level! ''Yeah except we already WERE max levels and all even, ready to pvp....now we gotta go trough all that crap AGAIN?  :-\  Yay?''
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2016, 04:48:48 PM »

470 damage sounds like overkill, cant realy see how this weapon could be viable in current game. In 2 days wielder of this gun will make it 3x legendary and killing whole team in 2 shots.

Call it end of AOP days if you want.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2016, 05:02:34 PM »

Dont worry man. After 2-3 wipes game will be balanced.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2016, 05:09:04 PM »

Are you talking about the particle accelerator? We plan to nerf that, we were just deciding what ways to tone it down.
The problem with legendary weapons is that they break weapon balance, to put it simply.
That said, it was never intended to be a oneshot.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2016, 05:13:58 PM »

Are you talking about the particle accelerator? We plan to nerf that, we were just deciding what ways to tone it down.
The problem with legendary weapons is that they break weapon balance, to put it simply.
That said, it was inever intended to be a oneshot.

Maybe temporary change dmg to 0-0 to avoid crying on forum.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2016, 05:18:03 PM »

particle accelerator cannot oneshot anyone unless bluesuit or standing next to a wall
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2016, 06:16:31 PM »

Yes, balancing low and mid tier would be like Christmas wish come true <3
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2016, 06:27:48 PM »

particle accelerator cannot oneshot anyone unless standing next to a wall

Oh, well, it must be a myth then, because that would NEVER happen.
Did I break anyone's sarcasm detector?
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2016, 06:49:24 PM »

particle accelerator cannot oneshot anyone unless bluesuit or standing next to a wall

that was last seaosn ramon , now every pleb runs with nerfed ca mk2s and even lower ofc they get oneshot ... i even spray sometimes niggas with an assaultrifle for 90 dmg each burst :] , only the experienced players i shoot for 30 , 40 , 50 ...
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2016, 07:07:33 PM »

particle accelerator cannot oneshot anyone unless bluesuit or standing next to a wall

true, when full health.
1st level legendary particle can already one shot a 270hp enemy sniper.
2nd level will take out anything with less than 350hp.

In theory, its easy to avoid being shot by particle. Its slow, so as soon as you hear the sound, move a hex, you wont get hit.
In reality, with lags and all, you get instagibbed before you even hear the shot.

I'd be perfectly OK with particle as it is with 20ms server lag.  But ATM most of playerbase is on a dialup in fucking Kazachstan. So yes, pls nerf.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2016, 09:10:37 PM »

Yes, the particle rifle.

It is not an easy weapon to use and the person who shot you, Cyrax, is the most experienced player on the server with this gun.

Go and find one in a fun box (or I will give you one) and practice with it. It is definitely the most unique weapon on the server.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #11 on: May 09, 2016, 03:12:51 AM »

Well, you can even buy it at shop. At least it was available in merchant 3 days ago.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2016, 03:20:02 AM »

yeah i bought few particles for only 1400 each, they are very common now
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #13 on: May 09, 2016, 03:28:06 AM »

Ha, so it wasn't only me...now I need to learn how to use this shit :D
Back to subject, as I wrote in other threads with similar subjects. Please rework/buff low/mid tier gear...almighty papa Cirn0, help us  :-\
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2016, 04:08:07 AM »

Who's idea was to make particle common weapon?  :o

For tier 10 its fine, can one shot almost anybody and will be rare...or was.

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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #15 on: May 09, 2016, 04:15:15 AM »

In theory, its easy to avoid being shot by particle. Its slow, so as soon as you hear the sound, move a hex, you wont get hit.
In reality, with lags and all, you get instagibbed before you even hear the shot.

It's not slow by any means, it's impossible to react on shot sound, since you have 0.5-1 seconds to react amidst a freaking deathmatch. We mass-tested it, if you are not moving BEFORE you are shot, you won't dodge it. So if you're deployed you can as well go get some tea and contemplate your life decisions.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2016, 09:45:21 AM »

As far as i can tell, i wasn't standing next to a wall. Maybe 7-8 hexes from it actually. I couldn't really tell you what gun shot me, since i never saw who shot me. 95 sight range, and there was no one visible in front of me. Then poof insta-kill. The sound i heard was very similar to a gauss rifle sound however. (No clue what accelerator sounds like)

Legendary weapons should also definatly be removed too. Cause when you think about it, your just rewarding the biggest swarms with even more power to dominate the smaller factions. '' Hey there is 50 of you against 5 of them? Sweet! your sure to win and to get even better weapons!'' Not to mention the ease of wich people can cheat their way to legendary weapons.....

Have half of your buddies join an ennemy faction, and go murder the fuck out of em overnight, until you get your super legendary weapons, then the swarm just need to protect the guy with the insta-kill weapon.
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2016, 09:52:34 AM »

You forgot about winning team looting your own legendary weapon from your cold hands while searching your body if somehow you will reach enough kills without being killed with one weapon.


P.S. Rebalance low/mid tier :v

I will even pay :v
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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2016, 10:23:37 AM »

(No clue what accelerator sounds like)

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Re: *Concerning Gear*
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2016, 05:45:06 PM »

What ? You want balance in a multiplayer game ? Expect some disapointment...
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