FOnline: Ashes of Phoenix
Community section => Events & Politics => Topic started by: Poker-Jack on September 08, 2014, 05:55:00 PM
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As it stands right now, V-tec seems to have the most population, mainly of new players, many unarmed, and lightly equipped.. Easy bullet fodder for most other factions.
Brahmin Boys have been packing a whollop into Lawers' Gate during peak hours almost all day.
Suggestion: V-tec and Lawyers cease fire until there is a balance in Phoenix or a more formal alliance can be arranged.
Responses?
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Maybe you should try making peace with your neighbors first? Nobody told us to stop shooting; Only thing i head was shots back. I've helped out a few lawyers, and you guys aren't bad people. BBs real enemy is the family so far as I've noticed.
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Maybe you should try making peace with your neighbors first? Nobody told us to stop shooting; Only thing i head was shots back. I've helped out a few lawyers, and you guys aren't bad people. BBs real enemy is the family so far as I've noticed.
I don't know what faction you're speaking from, but V-Tecs ARE the neighbors to lawyers.
And we're supposed to ask the faction camping our gate to hold fire? What the fuck?
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Maybe you should try making peace with your neighbors first? Nobody told us to stop shooting; Only thing i head was shots back. I've helped out a few lawyers, and you guys aren't bad people. BBs real enemy is the family so far as I've noticed.
I don't know what faction you're speaking from, but V-Tecs ARE the neighbors to lawyers.
And we're supposed to ask the faction camping our gate to hold fire? What the fuck?
Im a BB, an we are ALSO your neighbor. As far as I know, the lawyer and BB skirmishes didnt start until a few groups of players started PKing each other. Im not going to name names, but I've really only seen belligerence towards our respective factions with a small number of players.
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there are some members that are rogue they kill for loot dropped by players what i do is either hide or fight back they expect us to fight back that only maximizes their loot gain if they call us pussies then I just ignore them that is their own way of saying "hey come out we wanna kill you for your loot" I don't think there will even BE a ceasefire to summarize this no possible ceasfire without getting waped by either lawyers or bbs they are out to kill only for loot gain not saying all lawyers or bbs are bad some are but not all
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I'm sorry, but what's "bad" about killing enemies for loot? I can't even comprehend what you're saying. If you think killing for loot is "bad" then this game will be harsh for you.
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if bbs come to us and kill us the loot is theirs but if any other faction comes and slaughters our fellow v-tech members that is spilling innocent blood for no reason we have no quarrel with other factions we are only focused on the Brahmin boys and they are focused on us as well
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Then i'll mention something too, i was coming back from core scavneging ( Lawyer) and met a V-tec, i didn't do anything, was just going back and that well idiot attacked me having only a laser rifle. The only respond i made was a full series from AK into his head, as i was well armed with a tesla armour on my back. So what i'm trying to say sometimes people behave unpredictable.
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I waited for this thread for so long! (: Where messy politics begins.
Huge part of players don't read forum. don't care about your opinion about politics, won't listen to stop backstabbing and stealing from anyone they can.
There could be no guarantees in faction-to-faction relationships currently. Although it's possible to be organized on platoon-to-platoon level.
As my personal opinion BB are dominating, and it will continue, there's no fun to lay under peace with you, guys. I don't have anything against peaceful loners / small groups, but your forces have huge well-organized aggressive bands. And they are pretty bully (:
If anyone from V-tech would like to organize cease fire agreements, you really need to organize in groups with leaders and clear politics. I'm the one who can affect group(s) from the Lawers
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BB is still the smallest faction on the server. All V-Tech and Lawyers need to do is organize, even a ragtag group can make a difference.
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We are currently trying to organize things in v-tech now. We can't manage the organization of this alliance now, but we will talk about it in coming days.
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I doubt you will see a ceasefire, there is no formal structure to control the hordes of players slaughtering each other.
At the current point in time i will be killing anyone i see that is not blue, if i don't i am risking being killed again and another set of Armour/weapons lost to <insert faction here>.
Edit: plus the Lawyers are constantly taking over control points that are Rightfully VTec property.
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As my personal opinion BB are dominating, and it will continue, there's no fun to lay under peace with you, guys. I don't have anything against peaceful loners / small groups, but your forces have huge well-organized aggressive bands. And they are pretty bully (:
Most of those well armed and organized bands are in response to something that happened, usually. If BBs are getting killed by other factions, someone starts to organize bands to start marauding their gate. Could just be we all look out for each other more?
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Even if you tried making a ceasefire there is no way to enforce it.
A part will always fight and kill on sight and the rest will be wary.
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At best, people can make agreements about zone control, as it need proper managing, but on individual basis, no faction can control all its members.
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if only this could be a final end quest to the game a faction realizes that war will lead to nowhere and that there should be peace but in order for there to be peace the player character has to go to other faction bases and ask for peace but the player has to do a favor for the leader and when you get to your enemies base you will have to fight your way inside and force peace although it would break the meaning of this game
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BB is still the smallest faction on the server. All V-Tech and Lawyers need to do is organize, even a ragtag group can make a difference.
The family is the smallest faction....
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don't know if that's actually true but there members are armed to the bone and the bbs mock us again to this day
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As it stands right now, V-tec seems to have the most population, mainly of new players, many unarmed, and lightly equipped.. Easy bullet fodder for most other factions.
Brahmin Boys have been packing a whollop into Lawers' Gate during peak hours almost all day.
You can enjoy your top spot on the PK charts for now. But as it stands,
Suggestion: V-tec and Lawyers cease fire until there is a balance in Phoenix or a more formal alliance can be arranged.
Responses?
These numbers may be a bit dated. Lawyers, BB, and V-tec have roughly the same number of players (+/-7 or so) while family is still the smallest (-20). As far as cease fire goes? No. No lets not do that. You can take the ZC while mostly uncontested, but we will continue to beat you in contested ones. You can camp our gates for now, but soon our guard spawns will be fixed, and you wont even have that.
Enjoy the top PK spot while it lasts; your source of bluesuit v-tecs will soon be in short supply. My friends and I will continue to hunt ZBSDenis and Adrenaline as they make for pretty good PvP.
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Guys! why do you want a ceasefire?!? It's fine how it is now. This is after fallout, wastland is harsh!
If some guys go PK near a gate, everybody gather and swarm, it work most of the time. And some retaliations after that are required of course. I don't see the problem. What's fun with scavenging, is that if you take the risk to go alone, you loot more, but you are alone haha! If nobody shoots eachother, this is no more a pvp server. And I never got killed at the gate, it's long enough to avoid a small squad, and previews help.
Don't forget: "WAR, WAR NEVER CHANGES"!
And, good guy, you are such a pony. :)
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Guys! why do you want a ceasefire?!? It's fine how it is now. This is after fallout, wastland is harsh!
If some guys go PK near a gate, everybody gather and swarm, it work most of the time. And some retaliations after that are required of course. I don't see the problem. What's fun with scavenging, is that if you take the risk to go alone, you loot more, but you are alone haha! If nobody shoots eachother, this is no more a pvp server. And I never got killed at the gate, it's long enough to avoid a small squad, and previews help.
Don't forget: "WAR, WAR NEVER CHANGES"!
And, good guy, you are such a pony. :)
Yes, here is the deal though. BB is V-Tec's natural enemies based on game mechanics. As near as I can tell there is very little combat between the two. As it stands right now, if I see a BB player I am likely to give them a friendly "Hello". If V-Tec forms an alliance with anyone, it should be BB. Those "neutral" Lawyer fucksticks though, that is another story.
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Exactly, at the moment its a much greater fight between the lawyers and Vtec then Vtec v BBs.
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Hey we had pretty good fights yesterday at nuka cola ;(. Captured it with 50 points difference on 3rd try ;P.
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Nice work :P
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As near as I can tell there is very little combat between the two.
The same could be said for lawyers vs family. You are most likely to fight for territories with your direct neighbours than with the faction which is at the other end of the map. (except to get XP when they start timer)
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As near as I can tell there is very little combat between the two.
The same could be said for lawyers vs family. You are most likely to fight for territories with your direct neighbours than with the faction which is at the other end of the map. (except to get XP when they start timer)
Yeah I'm with Family and we rarely fight Lawyers and BB, ocasionally we off a few scattered ones, Family's main foes are Vtec, these guys are everywhere, all the time. We take a point and then blam, a swarm of +15 vdregs show up in all their honour-less, spawn-camping glory. I think this is fairly surprising because they are farther from us than BBs!
Sometimes we do send a few death squads to clear out such riff-raff from holy Family clay. Don't remember many big fights with non-vtec factions.
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I doubt anybody could organize a ceasefire with V-Tech, as we have far too many players to organize anything well. If someone else's suggestion of a neutral trading post gets added I'm sure a trade deal wouldn't be too difficult to reach, however.
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what's the point of a ceasefire in a faction-fight based game?
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what's the point of a ceasefire in a faction-fight based game?
If you have to ask, it's your imagination that's the problem.
In any case, I've requested about three times that this thread get closed to no avail... so continue discussing this thread regardless of it's frivolous intent.
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Why close a thread that could have the potential of worthwhile discussion?
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I can see it now... swarms of ignorant, drooling V-Tech drones marching under the orders of their distant leaders, who are little but puppets to Lawyer masterminds in their quest to destroy the poor, brave people of the Family as we fight the entire city mobbing on us. BBs get tossed into the pits for vtec filth to feast on.
Today I saw a Vtec helping Lawyers by revealing our location. Coincidence? I think not!
Wake up Vtec sheeple, your Lawyer masters are befuddling you with their little lies!