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Beginner Guide
« on: September 18, 2014, 01:35:41 PM »

Hello contributors !

I'm currently creating a beginner guide. This guide target the player that never play other Fonline game ( or neither Fallout 1 & 2 ) and is a step by step. I already did the first pages ( installation, character creation, interface is in wip ) and I will continue soon.

I'm looking for someone able to correct / improve my writing as english is not first language. It will maybe be one of the first document new player will read (let's hope ;o) so I do not want it to be in shity english.

So please response to this post and I will link you first pages. Once it will be done I will add a Beginner guide link on the wiki home page.
« Last Edit: September 18, 2014, 02:46:06 PM by Ender »
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2014, 12:43:53 AM »

It will be my pleasure to help you in this matter.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2014, 07:27:52 AM »

Thank you.

I created a category to group all the page of the Beginner Guide ( Go here to access the category : http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Category:BeginnerGuide ).

This need to be read again but I'think the "installation" & "character creation" pages are finished.
Could be great if you take the time to read them and improve them ( you know better sentences, less english errors, ... ).

If you think there is something big missing ( or you think some information are not adequate for noob ) please tell me ; In that case I will rework the pages.

I'm currently on the "Discover interface" so do not loose time on it ( seems it will be change a lot in the next hours / days )
Thank you very much for you help.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2014, 08:07:00 AM »

I've fixed a little bit of those nasty mistakes.
"These skills don't evolve as others and you can't tag them or spend points on them. "
http://fonline-aop.net/wiki/index.php?title=Beginner_guide:_Character_Creation
It was written as "... and you can tag them or spend point on them."
Like those. I'll double-check everythin there is once you'll finish interface page. You've done good btw.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #4 on: September 19, 2014, 07:48:41 PM »

Thanks. I should review more myself before submitting this to other eyes. Will try to re-read me more for next pages ;o
 
I will continue tomorrow.
I would like to do :
- Discover interface
- First step ( first map description to faction's choice )
- What can I do ( General description of available activities )
- I'm a Lawyer ( Description of the lawyer hq )
- I'm a V-tech
- ....
- Tips : Scanvenging ( what can I find , where and how to sell )
- Tips : Zone control ( teamplay description )

Or something like that but I do not know if I will have the time for all of this ( Will certainly do the Lawyer faction but I do not know the other ones ). I will try to link to existing ressources on the wiki.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2014, 06:07:32 PM »

I'll be happy to help with editing and fixing redirects and everything.   Good stuff.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2014, 12:46:15 PM »

Update !

I finished the "Discover interface" page.
Again I hope someone correct all mistakes (here)

Next one is "First step" ( Move, world interaction, line of sight, tagging )

Once this is corrected I will add link on the front page of the wiki.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2014, 10:54:24 PM »

I've corrected everything major. I can edit it further, but everything is understandable ;).
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2014, 11:08:40 PM »

Looks great!  Very good job.  One addendum I'd make would be to include F5 somewhere in Chat.  Preferably both places should have mention of it.  It may be listed in Shortcuts but seems something that would be helpful to know in relation.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2014, 07:00:32 AM »

Thanks for your feedback. I had the F5 / scrolling information in the chat & log section.
I will update soon the shortcut page to update it with all shortcuts available ( Like F5, or the shortcut for aiming, ... ).

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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2014, 11:00:26 AM »

Some news about the beginner guide.

I added the first three pages on the main page of the wiki and write the next page : Discover the world
If someone has the courage to read it and correct my band english it will be great !
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2014, 11:14:34 AM »

I hope I've done it, will check once more tomorrow (your entire work). You're getting better at it ;).
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2014, 11:53:20 AM »

Thanks Myakot !

I looked at your modification ( to avoid these kind of mistakes in the future ). I tweak again two little things :
- Exit grid are not the only way to exit map ( we can - fuck don't now the word - use the underground access ) and as the player will be in the "faction selection" map ( beginner guide ) I do not want him to look after exit grid on this map ( there is not, we need to use the caravan ).
- Change the "95%/90%" to "maximum" ( much easier to understand )

I also added a new section "Interact with the world" on the same page ( Don't think it was already there when you correct the page.. Or I do this section perfectly ;o ). I did not change any older pages.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2014, 01:06:06 PM »

Just to be clear: whichever changes you make it's ok, that's your work, you have every right to just change everything I've done with it ^^.

The "underground access word" is Sewers.
And I don't think a newcomer who was never played fallout before needs that extra bit of information ^^, but it's your call! (Having it like some secret for experienced players is nice, they'll learn about it sooner or later anyways, and that's the fun.)
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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 02:52:26 PM »

You know it's a wiki so I see that much like a common work and it feel normal to explain this after you took time to improve the page and for wiki stuff I think it's always great to have other players feedback ( you know everyone don't see all in the same way )
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #15 on: September 26, 2014, 04:23:18 AM »

It'd be wonderful if the derived statistics page could get a reworking as well.  For some, the explanation is already explanatory enough.  For instance, I'm sure no one's too worried about the poison or radiation formulas.  If you're either, you need to be not.  However, it'd be nice to see some of the other formulas.  Far less important is something simple like Healing Rate that's determined entirely off starting stats, but having the closest currently accepted formulas in shorthand would be wonderful.  Most of these are already spelled out in the Critical Hit wiki page.  A lot of the individual mentions of such stats could use linking to the page as well.  :)  Thanks in advance and keep up the good work guys.
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #16 on: September 26, 2014, 08:02:33 AM »

Thanks for feeback Graves, I will take a look at this.
But please don't mess up with the topics this one if for the beginner guide ;o
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2014, 11:27:06 AM »

I take a look on the issue. I will try to add additional links between the two pages but I do not want to have these formula a two different location on the wiki. We will never think to update it in several places.

Maybe merging these two pages will be the solution. I do not know yet ( And as some derivated stat are not clear for me it's not easy to improve the page ).
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Re: Beginner Guide
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2014, 11:37:38 AM »

Which derived stats are not clear? We can always hag cirn0 about that! ;D
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« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2014, 01:23:40 PM »

Nop do not disturb dev for things like that. They have better things to do ;o
I just need to take more time reading formula & etc..
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